Friday, 01 February 2013

  • The Fairy Tale Complex

    I saw Paperman last year before Wreck-It Ralph started. It was cute and reeked of Disney. While I enjoyed every second of it, my mind mulled over the romantic clichés.

    This ostensibly romantic experience is found throughout Disney fiction. People are brought together by fate or external magic, true love and finding the one. I've found this concept particularly prevalent in young women, too. It's an extra unnecessary stress for wooing: All must be perfect or else it wasn't meant to be. This leads to missed chances and unfortunate matches, such as naive women pairing with particularly manipulative, temporary men. Young women end good relationships because magic buzz shifted to sincere appreciation. Adult women devalue their mate for adding clarity. Special moments are expected rather than cherished... misplacing credit.

    Men are not immune to this, myself included.

    Disney has helped to establish a corrupted social system where men must either enjoy the chase and weave of seduction, suffer it, be alone, or do whatever is necessary to find more sensible available women. Women who were not raised into emulating fairytale princesses.

    Forgive me if I made it sound like women were the culprits, rather than the victims. I view these women more as caught in sacrificing for religious or cult reasons.

    And there's doubtless demand for this fantasy, as with other illusionment. Perhaps that's why Paperman centers on a man chasing his unicorn - Disney was equalizing gender markets.

    Just a thought.



    Do you think this fairy tale complex is the natural result of overexposure to Disney princess stories? Do we harm our daughters and their future relationships by allowing or encouraging the princess fantasy?

Comments (11)

  • QuantumStorm@xanga

    There is a lot of harm done by encouraging the princess syndrome, as I sometimes call it, in our daughters. What often happens is it results in fabricating a shell of self-entitlement and "I'm perfect because I'm a princess!" cliches around the daughters which act as a sort of shield against pain - but it also acts as a shield against reality and growing up in a world that is not princess-friendly by nature. In the process of instilling the princess syndrome, parents often end up teaching these girls to form a habit of "pricing" themselves out of the dating market by always demanding WAY more out of the men than what they put into the relationship. It boils down to scores of women demanding special treatment because they happen to have female sex organs and not because they have actually DONE anything to deserve special treatment, and that is just silly. 

    Ever notice that in many of the classical Disney movies, you often have the dude rushing to save the princess and fighting off the dragon or (insert foe here), and the movie usually ends right at the wedding bells? The whole time, the princess is often treated as an object, someTHING that is acted upon by a guy. Sure, she may sing and dance here and there but it's usually the prince who has to come and "save the day." That sort of cliched BS can result in young girls developing a very inflated sense of self ("The guy has to do the heavy lifting because I'm so special"), as well as the implied message to guys that if they aren't actively "saving" their women, then they aren't worth dirt. 

    Now it's not as if Disney or other media which promulgate the princess fantasy are 100% BS; in some cases they do impart lessons on developing valuable character traits such as self-confidence, bravery and ingenuity. And some of the more recent Disney movies, like Mu'Lan or Brave, do a good job of breaking the gender stereotype and showing girls that yes, women CAN be brave and bold just like the men. But by and large, parents should be very careful about exposing their children to the princess fantasy that has become a part of our culture. 

  • Lady_Kelacy@xanga

    I have not seen (or heard of) this movie but I totally agree with the cultish Disney-princess ideology that has been created and passed down. Heck, I remember my mom forcing me to wear frilly dressed and practice piano and all sorts of things I never wanted to be a part of because it was "appropriate" for a young lady. I can be a perfectly respectable woman without being some pseudo-perfect trophy for a guy, thank you very much.

  • WaitingToShrug@xanga

    Well, it's not *just* Disney, it's also just about every romantic comedy out there. And I agree with you that they're not realistic, but at the same time, I expect them to not be realistic because they are selling escapism and entertainment.
    I think you're right, but I also truly don't understand what kind of disconnect with reality a woman must have to live in this kind of world. I mean, I had my impossible daydreams (and still do) but I've never found it difficult to actually live in reality and reconcile my perceptions with what's actually going on around me.

  • Lovegrove@xanga

    Disney and the romance genre don't start the ideas girls get, they make that stuff for the screen because it is what the market wants.Girls do focus on romance, boys do focus on heroic action. That's how it is. Thankfully, some of us do grow out of it, althoughI do love a good shoot 'em up.

  • notinwonderlandanymore@xanga

    I think blaming this on Disney is ridiculous. I'm 24 and I grew up watching Disney films and dressing up as a princess for parties, but you grow out of it. If you don't, at some point, teach your children that Disney stories are just that, stories, and nothing like reality, you're not really doing your job as a parent.


    I don't anyone who is literally waiting for Prince Charming to come along and sweep them off their feet - most women know that nobody is perfect, that relationships are often very hard and that you have to put a lot of work into them to make them work. Yes, of course there are women who are hopelessly romantic and believe in being rescued by some guy, but it's been happening for hundreds of years, so blaming it on "Disney" is a bit stupid in my opinion.
  • quest4god@revelife

    I had a frustrating time in pursuing the object of my affection. I don't think you can get rid of that. It is a big decision to give your heart away (and I'm not talking about giving in to having sex).

    My mom used to say, (don't know where she got it) "a man chases a girl until she catches him."

    Though it's frustrating and there are emotional ups and downs, the chase was worth the trouble for the wonderful life with a wonderful woman... I loved most every moment of it.

  • Nushirox2@xanga

    Most people grow out of it.


    But, They're nice stories.
  • greatredwoman@xanga

    All of us need the dreams..AND we need to do a better job in giving our children TOOLS with which they can deal with the challenges of relating with others. Some of these tools are learned (good and bad) within their family of origin..

  • shezadey@xanga

    Or the notebook and other such sappy franchise films.. Some people take it literally

  • a12906@xanga
    I would also like to add that Disney is very anti-male and anti-intellectual. The good guys are often deemed as not the brightest, while very intelligent guys are ones who are evil.
  • rachmorgan01

    Personally, I see nothing wrong with allowing our daughters to indulge in fantasy land. The time for innocence and magic and fairy dust and princess dresses is so fleeting. Before you know it, that sweet little girl hosting tea parties for her stuffed animals while dressed to the nines is going to be piercing her nose and telling you she hates you. I say let little girls pretend to be princesses if that's what they want. They do grow out of it. I grew up watching princess movies, and I don't have a warped sense of entitlement, nor did I expect the man of my dreams to act like Aladdin or Eric. I also do not have any problems with facing the reality of my life. Pardon my bluntness, but anyone who can't seem to find their way out of fantasy world needs to have their head examined. The blame shouldn't lie with the movies they watch or the books they read, they just need to grow up.

    In addition, Disney is not the only company producing fairytales. Nearly every romantic comedy and chick flick out there portrays at least some aspect of the swept-off-your-feet-by-an-incredibly-grand-romantic-gesture scenario. These films are entertainment, not a basis for life. I have never met anyone who uses Disney men or Ryan Gosling's character from The Notebook as a comparison for every guy they date, but I would certainly feel very sorry for any woman who does. Sure, flowers and jewelry are great, but I'll take my husband unloading the dishwasher or sweeping the floor over those things any day.

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