Thursday, 01 November 2012

  • Bringing Up Bebe

     

    I'm very interested in parenting books because it's my one job these days and I need to excel in it. I heard about the book "Bringing Up Bebe" while still in California. I didn't hear a review on it, but it intrigued me nonetheless because it was a window into how other people parent.

    For the most part, this book has changed my outlook on how I should raise Simone and Max. In France, parents try to create an independence in their children that is not found in America. This helps the kids entertain themselves when their mom or dad have to do important things like cook or clean the house. French parents also do not let their children interrupt conversations among adults, nor do they let the children impede on parental quiet time in the evening. These are issues I have with Simone and Max and it's time I get francophile on their butts!

    Simone is always interrupting Michael and me when we are in the car talking about ... anything. It can be as inane as a joke or it can be as serious as a discussion on where to allot our savings for the month. If Simone has a thought, she has to let it out. I'd now like her to learn to respect my time with Michael and not interrupt us. I'd like her to wait her turn. Before reading this book, I didn't put much thought into immediately responding to Simone. Between her and Michael, she is the younger and more helpless being and I felt she needed more urgent attention. Of course I would roll my eyes when it turned out all she wanted to do was show me the size of the booger she caught, but my gut reaction was always, "Tend to Simone!!!!"

    My issues with Max are telling him "No." I've actually been refusing him things like chocolate in the evening, extra TV, too much yogurt, going outside, etc. But I've been feeling weighed down by the constant battle I have with him. Reigning him in takes so much energy and his whining protests grate on my nerves. The book has given me courage that I'm doing the right thing. Bringing Up Bebe encourages telling the kids to "wait" because it makes the kid practice patience and independence.  If I don't give Max an extra TV show, he's forced to find other ways of entertaining himself. The book assures me that Max will eventually get the notion that he can't have all that he wants when he wants it, and my need to say no will diminish.

    I don't agree with everything that French parents do. They are very adamant about sending babies to daycare as soon as the mother is able to return to work. I agree that this lets the mother return to cultivating her own sense of self by letting her go back to whatever she did before children. But I don't think it's as vital as the French make it out to be. A mother can do things for herself outside of a conventional career. C'est possible. 

    French parents also don't glorify breastfeeding as much as American parents do. I for one think it's AWESOME! The author claims that French mothers stop breastfeeding early because it messes up your tits by making them sag too much in the end. That, to me, sounds too far on the scale of preserving a mother's identity. To be in denial of the changes that motherhood inflict on the body does not seem healthy. And then to do it at the cost of giving your kids nutrients from breastmilk! Just so you can have perky boobies? My friend Alicia said her mom had a great rack after having 9 children because she wore a bra to bed even at night. Maybe that's the key!

    After reading this book, I'm going to put the kids to bed earlier so I can have more time to myself. Sure, it'll be time doing stuff for the kids, but it's an alone time that rejuvenates me. I'm also going to feel less guilty trying to schedule a solo outing every weekend! I'm going to play less with Max when we're on the playground at the park if we're there with other kids and their mothers. 

     

    Vive La Gigi!

     
    Are you familiar with other International parenting styles?



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Comments (8)

  • plursheep@xanga

    That is interesting...the rest of the world puts up with saggy breasts and shaving except France.  Huh.  Anyway I think it sounds very interesting otherwise.  Kids nowadays are so spoiled.  I love Toys R Us (because I will always be a Toys R Us kid) but hate going in there when kids throw themselves on the ground because mom said no...and then mom gets it for them anyway.  Seriously? I grew up poor so even if I did scream, I didn't get it (and now probably no cookies and milk later either.)  My husband grew up in a richer family (not rich but much more well off) and is a brat.  Sometimes he gets angry about stupid things and I tell him he reminds me of my little brother (who is also a spoiled brat.)  I see people run stop signs or get pissed because traffic is too slow or their food at McDonalds is taking too long but I never understood why.  I guess I was taught patience because I had to be growing up.  

  • DirtyAndShaken@xanga

    I have to admit I liked the book a lot more than I thought I would, and it solidified a lot of my thoughts on certain things, like independence and food, etc.  The part about breastfeeding absolutely bothered me, but I took what I liked and left the rest. Also don't agree with the leaving the child in a daycare as soon as the mother can return to work. A lot of the independence stuff really resonates with me, though. Sometimes I'm the ONLY parent on the playground or in a play place that isn't hovering over my child and dictating how he plays. He is fiercely interdependent and has been since he was born.  I like to honor that, and that includes letting him be free to roam, explore and socialize in a safe environment.


    And yes, as far as being spoiled? As homeschoolers, we have a quote on the wall in our house that says, "Buy less stuff, spend more time." 
  • rachmorgan01

    This is a bit off topic, but is there anyone out there who doesn't or has not ever read a parenting book? I'm not judging anyone who chooses to read them, but are they really as helpful as people claim they are? I only ask because I have never read or even considered reading a book about parenting, mainly because I choose to raise my children according to my own values and go with my instincts. When in doubt, I ask someone I trust or I talk to our family doctor.

    Being of Dutch descent, there are a few things I've heard of that pertains to this culture by listening to my grandmother talk about child rearing. I don't know how much of the following information is still current since my grandmother's child rearing days ended 30 years ago, but here's what she has told me: Dutch mommies potty train early. Their children are all using the potty by the time they are 2 years old, and my grandmother had my brother and I in underwear and out of diapers by our 2nd birthdays. Also, they encourage independence. They do not hold their babies all day or run to their side every time they cry. Their babies must learn to be on their own. Now, I agree with the latter to a certain extent. I would never intentionally ignore my child's crying for an extended period of time, but am I going to bring a baby to the bathroom with me because I don't want them to cry? No.

  • pEnSaMiEnToS_pRoFuNdOs@xanga

    Im not French, but come from Mexican roots. my mother raised me to be very independent and thus, my children are as well. I think they are way more independent at their age, (3&4) than I was because I was the baby of the family for 7 years until my brother came along. I was taught not to interrupt adult conversation and played a lot by myself. I believe parenting is the same all over just with a twist according to values and cultural differences. Every one is going to have a different parenting style, no matter what part of the worls you are living in at the time.

  • Pollypinks@xanga

    This is one author's opinion.  I think you'll find many French parents who don't parent that way, just as we Americans don't all parent the same way.  All our kids are different, and we figure out what's best for us.  Since I'm a gramma here, almost 60, one thing I don't agree on is how long parents are having their kids in diapers.  I mean, I see kids in restaurants having normal conversations with their families, pooping their pants!!   I would have never done that.  Since I have my year old grandson 3 days a week, I've discussed this with his parents, and they have no problem with me starting him on his own potty chair at 2.  A little warm water in the bottom of it sometimes relaxes things and the toddler pees.  Only for 5 minutes every two hours.  Nothing abusive.  My son was in regular underwear before 2, because he wanted to sit on his sister's potty chair at 15 months every time she did, so I took his diaper off and let him.  But it was unheard of in my generation to have a 3 or 4 year old ask his mother if she'd packed his diapers for their vacations!!!  Weird.

  • f5ye_angel5@xanga

    I don't have any children and I'm not in position in my life to have any. Also, too young. 


    But in my English class we were reading this book Generation Me which talks about how parents had started making kids feel special too much and my teacher mentioned "Bringing up Bebe." My teacher said that the books talks about in France, the parents are the boss. while here in US, the kids are the boss. 
    the Gen Me mentions this one event how the parent ask the kid if they want to leave the park and the kid said no so they didn't. a foreigner was confused and surprised for how the american parent let the kid decide when it's clear that the kid is not old enough to decide and it was freezing out. 
  • SHEERROSE@xanga

    I liked this post it was a different one compared to the usual ... what do they call it? I call it extreme bonding when people spend every minute with their kids, never let them cry, sleep with them... etc. I mean I'm not down on it it's not my cup of tea and it's just nice to see parents taking a more independent approach.

  • TracyKVM

    Breastfeeding doesn't ruin breasts--it's the pregnancy, weight gain, gravity and age that all does that.  Wearing a bra to bed does not strengthen the ligaments.

    I think it's great to teach kids patience, but keep in mind that it's not always something that can be "taught".  It's part of temperment.  They can be taught how to deal with their lack of patience :)  There is also a fine line between teaching patience, and "ignoring".  A toddler is taught to not impede on the parents' evening quiet time....well, the parents better be ready for a toddler that gets into mischief, a child that would rather be out with friends, and a teenager that doesn't want to impede when faced with larger issues.  I can't imagine my kids if I told them to pretty much become invisisble just because it's the evening.  There's a balance that needs to be met.

    It's fun to read about parenting in other cultures as long as we keep in mind that it's a generalization and that we need to know our own children best before implementing advice from strangers :)

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