Monday, 11 June 2012

  • VBAC - Controlled Risk or Unnecessary Danger?


    When I was 10 days "overdue" with my first child, I agreed to my Ob's suggestion that we should induce. When I was induced, they started me on pitocin and simultaneously broke my water (which didn't hurt). I got "stuck" at 9cm for a couple of hours and during that time, I finally agreed to the epidural because I couldn't take it. I couldn't take that advanced labor (and my daughter was also facing forward which is more intense) for such a prolonged period of time, and was too exhausted to concentrate on relaxation methods any longer. After the epidural, they upped the pitocin again. And two things happened. 

    I dilated to 10.
     
    Baby's heartrate became erratic.
     
    My doctor emphasized that we had to push her out now now now. Well, as I said, my daughter was facing the wrong way, and it just wasn't happening fast enough - so I was horrified to hear that I had to have a cesarean.

     
    I cried the entire way to the OR. I shook from powerful hormones, exhaustion, and emotions during the entire surgery. I was annoyed when the anesthesiologist kept asking if I was cold because I was shivering so badly. I wasn't cold, I was having a traumatic experience. The only part I can look back at and smile on was that my poor husband was finally prepped and walked into the operating room when they were in the middle of the cesarean and they had my organs out of my body. And at the end of it, as my OB was stitching me up she told me that I would not have to do this again. That she was stitching me up in a way that make a natural vaginal delivery an option for the next baby. That my incision was ideal for that. She reiterated that when she visited me later during my hospital stay and again when I saw her for my postpartum visits.
     
    Fast forward 2 and a half years. I became pregnant again.
     
    I went to the same group of doctors who had delivered my daughter. I saw them for a few months before the subject of VBAC or scheduled cesarean came up. At that time, I asked them about their opinion on VBAC safety. They were unfavorable. I asked why. One of the drs said, "No one sues you for performing a cesarean, they sue you for not doing one fast enough." Another said she would support a trial of VBAC *if* I didn't gain more than 30 lbs during my pregnancy because "truly emergent cesareans are more difficult and potentially more complicated the larger your patient is."
     
    I finally asked, "If we decided to try for a VBAC, what would that look like? What would your protocols or guidelines be before you gave up and took me to the operating room?" I was told that I would have to go into spontaneous labor prior to my due date. That if labor did start on it's own, once contractions were 10 minutes apart, I must go to the hospital. And from that point on, I must dilate 1 cm per hour or I would be operated on.
     
    I would like to know who would succeed with that as a guideline? They were setting me up for a cesarean but fooling me into thinking I had a choice of a VBAC.
     
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    The truth is, the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG - the nation's experts, the leading authority on Ob/Gyn practices) recommend the right to a trial of labor after cesarean within a certain set of standards. 1. The incision should be the low transverse kind (most incisions these days are this type). 2. There cannot be a preexisting medical condition which would make a vaginal delivery unsafe. More about their recommendations can be found here: http://www.acog.org/~/media/For%20Patients/faq070.pdf?dmc=1&ts=20120601T1250249554
     
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    So now I had a medical practice I no longer trusted had my best interest in mind, particularly since they weren't honest and upfront with me from the beginning. And I was 6 months pregnant. Time to find a new dr.
     
    Little did I know how difficult this task would prove. I lived in a very large city, with many medical choices, and at least 6 hospitals. As soon as I said the magic word "VBAC" I was shut out.
     
    I eventually went to a local midwife group, and took their tour and the opportunity to speak with them. They asked me to stay after the tour (with other moms-to-be) and talk with them privately. I did. And when I told them why I was there, that I could find no doctor who would give me the right to choose in the absence of medical complication and within the guidelines ACOG laid out, they wept with me. They could not legally attend my child's birth in the state in which we lived. I was probably going to have to have surgery against my will for no medical reason other than the fear or the unknown. 
     
    I considered that surgical assault. I would not consent without medical reason. I would not have a repeated cesarean for the sake of a protocol written by the legal department.
     
    For a few weeks the midwife group helped me figure out my options, and eventually, they found a doctor who had attended and (most importantly) supported VBACs. In order to see her, I had to stop working full time, and go to a part time status in order to get out of my insurance coverage (and onto my husband's) in the middle of the year. There was only 1 hospital in the city who did not have an outright ban on VBAC! And that is where we delivered. When we toured the hospital (yeah I was ready to pop when we toured, but everything about this pregnancy was about action and reaction, plan and re-plan), I asked the head nurse how many VBACs they had. None. They also did not look favorably upon them. I was also told I would not be able to bring my iPod or a birthing ball, nor would I be allowed to use the shower when in labor, etc. I felt very pessimistic about how this experience would go.
     
    Other than my new doctor who was VERY supportive and thrilled to attend, the midwives who helped me find my dr, and my immediate family - I felt like the whole world was against me. Against what I was trying. And there were many times I had to ask myself why I wanted to have a vaginal birth after cesarean.
     
    Here were my reasons:
    1. I did not want the number of children I can have artificially determined by how many "zippers" I could safely have.
    2. Cesareans themselves carry risks both to the mom and to the baby.
    3. The healing process after a cesarean is typically much, much longer than that of a vaginal birth (and this was a concern because we were being transferred across the country in the military 1 month after my baby was due).
    4. I knew that this was my only chance to turn it around. Once you have two cesareans, you'll be even harder pressed to find support for a trial of labor rather than a scheduled cesarean. I'm not even sure I would try that one, although I know many who have successfully had uncomplicated vaginal births even after having had 3 c-sections.
     
    And finally, because I felt it was a controlled risk. I would be laboring in the hospital, just like every other Mom. As if I had never had a child before. If things became complicated, I had staff and a physician who were trained and capable of taking the means necessary to preserve life, mine and my baby's. I knew that trying for a VBAC was not a guarantee that I would have success at it. I knew I could still end up with another cesarean, but at least I would know that I gave it all I had - that I had tried.
     
    So long as I went into labor. That was my new doctor's guideline. At 41 weeks she would become uncomfortable and begin stress tests etc, and I could not go even a day past 42 weeks. We were in agreement. She also requested that I have a non-medicated birth, no epidural (which was ok with me because that was also my plan). Her reason was this : IF something were to go wrong (the concern is of course uterine rupture) the first symptom of that is unusual pain, followed by bleeding. If you were deadened or dulled to that pain by medications then the rupture could become advanced before you were aware of it. 
     
    We were going to attempt a VBAC. A controlled risk in a controlled environment. With an unknown outcome.
     
    It was a very unpopular choice.
     
     

Comments (12)

  • yourkbear@xanga

    It's a very minimal risk. The risk of uterine rupture during a VBAC is 0.8%. However, the risk of rupture still exists for women who have never had a C-section. It is only SLIGHTLY increased for VBACs. The risk is completely overplayed. I got lucky because my CNM can do my VBAC, and she supports VBACs and works at a hospital that allows them. My friend had a VBAC at the same hospital. Unfortunately, my family doesn't support my choice.

  • andweknowthis@xanga

    Wow, I was quite shocked to read your experience, as here in NZ I'm pretty sure that VBAC's are quite normal and low risk!

  • OhFiddleheads@xanga

    I admire your tenacity in going after what you want. I fully support anyone who wants a VBAC and I hope everything works out for you. I saw a documentary on Netflix called "Pregnant in America" and a couple in Washington State was interviewed about them wanting a VBAC, which are apparently banned in the state. So they had to skip over to Vancouver, Canada to attempt a VBAC there.

    Overall, I find OB practices in the US tragically disappointing. Anyone who wants to step into the realm of normal birthing gets a slap on the wrist. It doesn't make any bloody sense. I'm thoroughly convinced that American OBs have a different prerogative than safe childbirth altogether: profit over people. It actually makes me sick.

  • rachmorgan01

    I commend you for being persistant and taking the necessary steps to birth your baby the way you wanted to. I feel awful that you had to jump through so many hoops during a time when you didn't need any unnecessary stress, though! I hate OBs sometimes, I really do. I've been begging my hubby to let me switch to a midwife when (well, if) we have another baby. After having so many problems with my last doctor, I want to have someone more patient, attentive, and willing to work with me instead of for me.

  • MissMamacita@xanga

    I had a VBAC. For the most part, the doctors in my area are ok with it as long as you don't have any contraindications.  I actually was not an ideal candidate since I did dilate to 10, pushed for 3 hours and my son didn't budge.  I ended up having the c-section (which I was okay with) because his heart rate kept decelerating.  Turns out, my pelvic opening is kind of oddly shaped and unless the baby turned his head just the right way, they would get stuck.

    The doctor said I had to go into labor naturally by 41 weeks. and no pitocin during labor (increase the chance of rupture) and gave me a max of 1.5 hours pushing.  I was allowed an epidural.  The reason being that if something were to go wrong, it would already be in and all they would have to do is bolus dose me for the c-section.  If I didn't have one in, I would have to undergo general anesthesia for the c-section and would miss the birth entirely.

    I was 39 weeks and 5 days at my last ob/gyn visit and I had to schedule my c-section for the next week since I hadn't gone into labor yet.  I scheduled it, felt kind of bummed since I was still just completely shut, 0% effacement so it seemed like there was no hope.  We had to move around furniture for the baby's room and I went into labor that night!

    My ob is pro-VBAC so when 1.5 hrs rolled around and my daughter still didn't come out, he kept saying, okay I'll let you go 5 more minutes, then I'll have to take you to the OR (she and I both looked fine).  He kept saying that until the 3 hour mark! At that point, DD just happened to turn her head so that it fit into my pelvis and she was out far enough for him to vacuum her out.  He told me later that if she or I showed any signs of distress, he wouldn't have let me push for that long.

  • sarahsmurfette@xanga
    @MissMamacita@xanga -  You bring up a good point that I neglected to mention. Pitocin. You are right, it increases the risk of vbac uterine rupture. There was a mom I knew here through momaroo who attempted a vbac, and it was the only case I had ever personally heard of that went wrong. But there were two reasons - the mom became wildly hypertensive at the end of her pregnancy so they induced her vbac with pitocin, while she had very high blood pressure. She nearly lost her life. She did lose her uterus, it was removed to save her life following the delivery of her baby.
  • the_Coley_he_seeks@xanga
  • the_Coley_he_seeks@xanga

    full disclosure- I had a breech homebirth after cesarean, so I'm a little biased.  (The breech part wasn't planned, but the hbac was.)

  • xhalesx@revelife

    I know someone who had to have an emergency C-section for her first pregnancy. Since then she has had two vaginal births and plans to have a 3rd vaginal birth with her fourth baby. It is possible. And it is also a risk. But if you are in a controlled environment where the doctors know what they are doing, you are safe.

  • WaitingToShrug@xanga

    Yay for actual content on momaroo! 

    Man, Sarah, have you read some of the history of physicians in this country working to outlaw midwifery? It freaks me out. I am so happy that you were able to do this, and so glad that you are spreading the word. Excellent post. 
  • Mandi

    My first was born via emergency c-section. I made it to 10, was pushing, but with each push his heart rate would drop. I fully blame the epidural for not allowing me enough oomph and feeling to push him out. Plus my doctor with that pregnancy was an idiot - I saw him TWICE the entire pregnancy (always saw the midwife), at the ultrasound and then delivery, and not until it was time to push. I should have known something was up when I wasn't seeing him at appointments, but I was 17.

    So with my second, I was thinking about VBAC. It had been 6 years in between, plenty of time to heal. Well, at 10 weeks I had a pulmonary embolism (blood clot in my lung) and had to go on blood thinner for the entire pregnancy. I was scared - after trying for 5 years to have another baby, THIS had to happen? We opted for another c-section.

    With my third, since there was only 12.5 months in between the two, we went c-section to be safe. There was no time to heal.

    Now, if we have another in 5 years+ I'll be 30+... so maybe VBAC will be an option again. I'd love to have full control. I've felt labor, with baby 2 my water broke in the car so the contractions after that were crazy compared to the ones before (which weren't doing anything to cervix so I was sent home... and 2 hours later was back and getting prepped) but I felt out of control. I knew I would have a c-section, it was a Wednesday and I was scheduled for Friday. But if we have another, I want to be in control. I want to determine who's in the room (mother in law, no thanks, she's too touchy - she tried to rub my arm with baby 2 and I freaked out, apparently only nurses and husband can touch me during labor!). I would say if we have another - BIG IF - I'll be trying for VBAC. It'll be VBA3Cs.

  • xoxo_Live_Love_Laugh@xanga

    This post was awesome and daunting to read. I will be going all out for a VBAC in October when I'm due. My first when I was 19 was an emergency Csection that pisses me off to this day! It IS possible! It WILL happen. :) 

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