Thursday, 24 May 2012

  • Cloth Diapering - Flats and Handwashing Challenge – The Beginning

    This is a guest post from Ashley, owner of Monkeyade. You can also find her on Facebook!

    I am participating in the second annual Flats and Handwashing Challenge by Dirty Diaper Laundry.  The idea is simple.  I will use flats for 7 days and wash them by hand in an effort to raise awareness that clean diapers can be affordable and accessible to anyone.  This year I am one of 450 participants to take on the challenge.

    I decided to take on the challenge this year for a few reasons.  I first heard about it last year and really wanted to participate.  I chose not to because there are rules to follow.  I was at the time handwashing diapers for two children in my bath tub.  We lived in an apartment and had a washer and dryer accessible to us but I was not trying to carry diapers and two very small children across the street.  Handwashing just worked better.  I was using prefolds which are not allowed in the challenge.  This year I thought “Hey.  I have a washer and dryer that I use all the time this would help give me renewed respect for the things I use every day.”  And even on day two it already has!

    Another reason is to prove a point.  I have friends who have come on hard times and have had a hard time buying diapers.  I am not the girl to preach cloth diapers (although I do use them and I do love them!) I just want babies to have clean butts.  However you need to make that possible.  If I do the challenge I can let people know that it can be done for cheap and also express my experience with it.  Maybe I can help someone who really does need it.  I don’t want to tell someone it can be done if I can’t even do it for a week. 

    My Husband saw I wrote the flats challenge on the calendar and asked “Are you going somewhere?”  Ha, I wish!  I told him how it’s supposed to raise awareness about how cheaply it can be to keep clean diapers on your children.  I told how some people try to re-use disposable diapers. He was like well those people are irresponsible.  I told him maybe so but some people just come on hard times. It’s not all bad people. And even if the parents are irresponsible the children don't deserve to suffer. I am SO thankful for this challenge because even my hubby will get a better understanding!

    The last reason is there is power in numbers.  I am one of many people taking on this challenge.  Although many think this challenge silly, or some plain just don’t want to do it even though they think it’s a great idea, the fact is it is helping.  The more people who get behind this, blog about it, tweet about it, just plain tell someone they are doing it.  They are helping spread the word.  And if it reaches even one person who really needs to hear the message, it’s completely worth it!

    So how cheap can this really be done? Well let’s tally up what I am using.  I have 4 birdseye flats and 15 flour sack towels.  The flats were about $1.50 each.  The flour sack towels from Walmart were about $5.50 for a pack of 5.  Tally so far: $21.  Next I have made a camp style washer. The bucket and lid were $4 form Lowes.  The plunger was $2.  Total so far: $27.  I use tide powder to wash my diapers.  The box says to use up to the first line for a large load.  I use like 1/10th of that for each load.  Walmart.com has tide for $9 for 40 loads of regular washing (so $9 for 400 of these washings or less than a penny a load!!) I also add a tiny bit of clear vinegar to the wash to help with softness and stinkies.  This too would be pennies on the dollar and is NOT necessary well say $2.  I wash about 10-12 flats with this much soap each night.  They have come out clean so far these first two nights and smelling great.  I bought two sets of Boingos (it is what holds the diaper on in place of pins) for $10 and a large wetbag to put dirty diapers in $16. Grand total $64.  Imagine diaper your child for 2-3 years for $64.  Yes you will need to buy more detergent but at less than a penny per wash you won’t have to buy too much!  Also much of this can be bought slowly.  You don’t need all of it right away.  Two packs of four sack towels and some detergent could get you started.  How much do you spend on diapers a week?  Do you think someone who was pregnant and needed to save $20 to get their baby started on diapers could do it?  I do!

    I am using two wool covers self knitted. I got the wool from Joann fabrics with a 50% off coupon. So each cover was $4. I am also using 3 PUL cover which cost me about $9 each. It adds $33 to the total cost. But really someone could get away with just two PUL covers. And they can be found for as little as $5 each including shipping.

    This is an experience I am excited to continue.  My husband is now involved because of his curiosity.  My son, 2 and a half, even *helped* wash the diapers for baby sister, 13 months, tonight. 



    And now you are involved. 

    Two days down, five to go.   

Comments (20)

  • LupusInvictus@xanga

    Interesting! I wanted to cloth diaper, but I expected to be working instead of staying home, so I didn't think it would work. Also, my partner says, "I am NOT scraping poo off of a cloth diaper thank you very much."

    I like the convenience of disposables when we are out and about or traveling, but I really do have the extra time to cloth diaper...Maybe I should bite the bullet and go for it now...

  • reanimated_corpse@xanga

    awesome. i dont have the patience to CD altho i did think about it. in answer to your question i spend 40$ every 6 weeks or so on diapers. i buy pampers at sams club.

  • Mumsie17@xanga
    uh-huh

    My point of view (from a part-time-worker/part-time stay-at-home mum living in New Zealand.)

    When my girls were babies (now 24, 22, 18) I used cloth, flannel and towelling nappies (diapers to you foreigners!) - and nappy pins to do them up -  unless we were going on holiday or to town for the day.
    Using disposable or washable nappy liners meant you didn't have to *scrape poo off a cloth diaper* (LupusInvictus) and a bucket of Napisan soak mix in the laundry bucket would hold a days worth of nappies.
    Once Napisan'ed for a minimum of 6 hours, the nappies were sterile and could be then rinsed well and dried.  I chose to wash them in the washing machine after being Napisan'ed, and then dry on the outside clothesline.  (Clothesline??  Shock, horror!!)  They remain pure white to this day, some 20 plus years later - and I have recently used them as an emergency measure when my granddaughter came to stay

    My girls never got nappy rash, I saved thousands of dollars, PLUS - most importantly - I did my bit for the environment and saving on landfill.
    They make great wraps when baby is tiny, they go on the bottom of the bath to prevent slipping, they mop up baby-spills and make a great emergency change area if you are caught somewhere with less-than-pristine coverings.  You can use them to shade a car window or the baby buggy, pop over your shoulder when burping bub, and eventually they make really good cleaning cloths!
    Try doing all that with disposables.
    Mums: go back to the old ways.  Sure, I sound old-fashioned (and just like my mother!) but it's totally do-able, and so very easy.For those of you who use cloth nappies, good on you!! 
  • DirtyAndShaken@xanga

    As a happy, committed cloth diaperer, I'm so thrilled to see this. How awesome! 

  • vlinder_farfalla@xanga

    This is so cool, I would totally take the challenge if my son was still in diapers. We used prefolds with him though, so I guess I couldn't do the flat challenge per se. But we did live in an apartment with no washer for a a while, and I handwashed all his diapers- it was a lot of work for sure! I absolutely love cloth diapering, am doing it again with this baby that's on the way :) I get kinda sad when people say they couldn't afford to/don't have the patience to cloth diaper. It's definitely cheaper than disposables, and once you get in a routine it's no more difficult! Great post!

  • andweknowthis@xanga

    We use cloth nappies in my house, although when our LO is staying elsewhere we always pack disposables, and use them for sleeping in. I recently went to a cloth nappy workshop and learnt sooo much. I didn't know they were just so bad for the environment and how many you go through and how much it ends up costing... Hopefully soon we'll be using cloth nappies for bedtime as well and just keep disposables for emergencies :) We mostly use pocket nappies, but there are so many kinds out there - something to suit everyone. And we never have to scrape poo's off the nappies... we use liners and just take that off and throw it away then dry-pail the nappies and wash them every second day. Plus it's so much better for baby's skin!

  • andweknowthis@xanga

    And the best thing to keep stains away is to dry them on the line in direct sunlight. We don't use nappy-san or anything like that, just liquid laundry detergent. Frost's also help with stains (leave them on the line overnight in winter). It's really no more difficult than disposables, just a few extra things to wash (I put mine on a rinse cycle then chuck the rest of the clothes in on a wash cycle) and hang on the line. And it's never too late to start using them!

    On a side note... something I was shocked to learn is that most people don't realise that using disposables you're still supposed to flush the poos! 

  • WaitingToShrug@xanga

    I had no idea that clean butts for babies was an actual cause. I guess it makes sense though. That makes me really sad that there are babies sitting in their own waste.

  • nov_way@xanga

    Thank you for raising awareness!

  • snarkius@xanga

    I did this last year when they offered the challenge as well as when my washer was out of commission for several weeks.  Well, I did not do the challenge properly because I could not give up my diaper sprayer.  I discovered the hardest part was not the washing.  It was the rinsing effectively and wringing the water out.  In order to get enough water out for the flats to dry in a timely manner, I would wring it out by hand and then have to lay them between towels and roll the towels out to absorb the excess water.


    If I could find a decent wringer for cheap, I would seriously wash all my laundry by hand including diapers. 


    The least amount of covers I could use was three.  That way when one drying after being washed, I could still have two to use.  I had to use just two before and it was pretty annoying.

  • snarkius@xanga

    @andweknowthis@xanga - I am glad I am not the only one who washes my diapers that way!  Actually, it is only method I found that lets me stay on top of my normal laundry.

  • andweknowthis@xanga

    @snarkius@xanga - I know quite a few people who wash their nappies like that :)

  • TiredSoVeryTired@xanga

    I had to use cloth diapers on my older son because disposables gave him rashes.  I couldn't use cloth diapers on my younger son because despite every way I washed them, they gave him rashes.  Go figure!  lol

  • MidnightChyld@xanga

    You go girl! I wash all of our laundry by hand (except socks and undies) with my trusty plunger. 

  • arsenic_and_red_lace@xanga

    I didn't thoroughly read your entire post so I apologize if I'm asking something that's already been stated.

    How do you properly disinfect the diapers by washing them in your bathtub?

    I just see a bit of a health risk that comes into place if the diapers are not washed in an appropriate temperature to kill bacteria.

    My friend cloth diapers, when she went on vacation the water was heated by a solar panel.  this means that the water didn't reach appropriate temperatures to disinfect and kill all necessary bacteria (she wasn't aware that this was happening) as a result, her daughter developed a really bad diaper rash and infection because as much as the diapers were "cleaned" they were not in fact, disinfected and sanitized.

    So I'm just curious how you make sure that the diapers are properly sanitized, do you place them in boiling water for five minutes to properly kill any bacteria that is in the diaper?

  • OhFiddleheads@xanga

    This is pretty neat and the most environmentally friendly way to diaper a child. I'm assuming no electricity is used other than what is needed to heat the water for the pail.

    I am cloth diapering my soon-to-be-born daughter in all-in-ones and using a cloth diaper service mostly because the idea of throwing out all those disposables sickens me and we can afford the service. It's great to have this perspective though and it reminds me to be grateful that my hubby and I can afford such a service. I think it's wonderful to make any mom aware that just because money is tight it doesn't mean their baby has to go with a dirty bum.

    I do wonder, though, how many wouldn't even consider this because it looks like too much effort. Aren't clean baby bums worth it?

  • OhFiddleheads@xanga

    @arsenic_and_red_lace@xanga - Good point. I don't think the temperature of the water used was mentioned. I would think boiling water would do the trick along with the vinegar she did mention using with the detergent. Vinegar is a natural disinfectant. 

  • hatcherbee@xanga

    This is great! I had read about this challenge last year too late to join in and now my youngest is potty trained! I spent about a year handwashing diapers about 5 years ago though, prefolds and covers at the time. My youngest three children were solely cloth diapered and I never found it to be that challenging, even when I had to handwash. I love that they are doing this! Kudos!!

  • snarkius@xanga

    @arsenic_and_red_lace@xanga - I did boil mine when I handwashed for several weeks last year, but mostly because it gets any residual detergent out.  I usually wash my diapers in cold water anyways to save electricity since my hot water heater will not go higher than 120 degrees so it will not be doing much disinfecting anyways. 

  • LALALANDFM@xanga

    I had to stop cloth diapering for a while because the washer went out and we arn't in our own place. I started washing by hand and it was fun soI stuck with it. Saved up enough for a sunbaby stash and everything was good.

    Even though We stopped I want to get started again. My son has genital psoriasis and the sunbaby's softness is better then a paper diaper. lol It's more about comfort and affortablity for me.

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