Wednesday, 25 May 2011

  • Dan's Fat Chick

    C'mon people! Are so many people so stupid? Can you not tell when a woman is posing post-partum for you?!  Can you not tell the difference between a woman who "doesn't care about herself" and a woman who just had a baby??

    Note:  The dark line from her belly button to her underwear. Pregnancy!!

    Note:  The "front butt", where her abdominal muscles have split before the baby was born. Pregnancy!!

    Note:  Big boobs and smallish shoulders not typical of a "plus-size" or "big girl." Pregnancy!!

    Guess what??  Plenty of small ladies will look like this for at least some part of her life.

    Guess what??  It has nothing to do with how much you care about yourself or whether you eat like a fatty or anything else.

    Guess what??  The only way to fix the "front butt" is surgery!!

    All by way of saying, man I'm glad as hell I had my recent tummy tuck.  Now I look like a skinny chick and all the shallow guys will be into me again!  Yay!

    And also by way of saying, it's all fine and good to say you prefer skinny chicks to fat chicks (however off-putting to some of us "chicks"). But whatever will you do when you promise to love and cherish that skinny chick for the rest of your life and she pops out a few kidlets and looks like Lady #3?

    Because I'm pretty sure everyone would agree that ditching your post-partum wife because she's not skinny enough is about as shallow as you can get.

Comments (47)

  • AGreatPerhaps@xanga

    Dan just stirs things up in order to get attention, I don't think he actually cares about... anyone but himself, or people, or logic. That whole post is ridiculous, because the thing people were originally calling shallow wasn't even just a guy liking skinny girls, it was the fact he pretty much just spoke about them as if they weren't human and "shallow" is the nice way to refer to that sort of disgusting behavior. I mean, like Dan could get his pick of VS models anyway... doubtful. Nor could most guys on xanga for that matter. Let them dream. Honestly, I doubt a lot of them could probably find a respectable women to have a kid with, because a lot of them are that sort of ridiculous, illogical, rude scum and therefore they don't have to worry about that sort of thing, I doubt the relationship will make it that far if they don't grow up.

    I think people forget or maybe just never learn about what kind of hell pregnancy can put the human body through. And some men have ridiculous expectations period. So it's no surprise they somehow don't expect a woman to be "fat" after having a child. I don't know what goes on in some people's heads sometimes, if anything, but while this post speaks volumes I feel like those it's probably meant for won't be hearing it.

  • Brilliant_Innocence@xanga

    "Are so many people so stupid?"

    Pretty much! lol

    "Because I'm pretty sure everyone would agree that ditching your post-partum wife because she's not skinny enough is about as shallow as you can get."

    Hell yes!

  • Joobie82@xanga

    Why is this a momaroo post? Keep the fight where it belongs. The less it's talked about, the less power Dan's words have.

  • storyofmylife87@xanga

    I don't think anyone really gets Dans sarcasm......Dan is a really nice guy. ;)



  • Escargotpudding@xanga

    ^ I agree. I think Dan's posts are very thought-provoking. I feel like his point was proven through the "shallow" responses. Your title is misleading, because it seems like you're attacking Dan, although I feel like your post should be criticizing his viewers. 

  • SnowshoeTrails@xanga

    @storyofmylife87@xanga - I think some people get it. I like Dan. :)

  • sarahsmurfette@xanga

    Actually, the front butt as you call it is called diastasis recti. And it is definitely fixable without surgery. You have to rehabilitate the muscles. The abdominals are not the only muscle in the body which you cannot rehabilitate.
    I have written about this here at momaroo before. Look up the Tupler Technique, it is a diastasis rehab program. You do not have to have surgery to look well again.

  • sarahsmurfette@xanga

    PS I am in week 5/6 on this program, and I started with an 8 finger separation between the muscles. My dr wanted to refer me to a plastic surgeon. I refused to believe it was my only option, and it wasn't. And getting surgery for it, a tummy tuck, is saying that you're done having children. What about those of us who aren't. We are not burdened with the idea that we just look the way we have to until we have plastic surgery. I'm sorry but this makes me mad.

  • sarahsmurfette@xanga

    Also, pregnancy is not an excuse to become unhealthy. You don't have to lose all self control and gain 40, 50, 60+ lbs. I blogged about that recently, too, and got land-blasted by a lot of readers for saying it. I have had 2 kids, and I weigh 112, at 5'1. Do I look like pic 1, no. I am rehabilitating my diastasis to put my muscles back together - for the HEALTH of it. Fitness and weight are two different things.

  • WaitingToShrug@xanga

    I've seen women who look like this who haven't had kids, and women who have had kids who don't look anything like this, at all.


    Cellulite completely all the way around the entire length of her thighs? Letting herself go! No tone in the calves? Not exercising. Side rolls? Slumping on the couch with junk food. Back/arm/double chin fat? Leading a sedentary lifestyle and consuming too many calories.


    Should her husband ditch her? Of course not. But let's not pretend like being pregnant automatically makes you fat for the rest of your life.

  • ordinarybutloud@xanga

    @Brilliant_Innocence@xanga - @AGreatPerhaps@xanga - thanks for your comment!  @Joobie82@xanga - they sent me a message asking if they could post it.  so I said yes.  I don't know how that usually works.@Escargotpudding@xanga - @storyofmylife87@xanga - Dan and I messaged privately about it and we have no issue between us.  I titled it "Dan's Fat Chick" because I originally wrote it for Xanga and it was the fastest way to clue everyone in to what I was talking about.  But yes, it was aimed at the commenters.  @sarahsmurfette@xanga - congratulations on your rehabilitation and your weight!  I have no problem with your opinion.  My experience was a lot different.  I am in my 40s and could not recover from the 3rd c-section after 5 years of effort.  I agree fitness and weight are two different things, though related.  @WaitingToShrug@xanga - I definitely wouldn't pretend such a thing.  However it was obvious to me that the picture was a woman posing post-partum.  I have no comment about whether she was healthy or unhealthy during pregnancy...don't feel it's my place to judge, having been pregnant five times.  But comparing a post-partum woman to a model seems a little...extreme.

  • ordinarybutloud@xanga

    @sarahsmurfette@xanga - oh, and also I should add that I had a hernia which required surgical repair.  So it is an overstatement to say that surgery is the only fix.  For some women no fix is necessary.  For me and a statistically significant percentage of post-partum women, surgery is necessary.

  • sarahsmurfette@xanga

    @ordinarybutloud@xanga - I also had a cesarean and an umbilical hernia. The hernia was not painful, just a bulge that came and went. It is not unlike umbilical hernias that some infants are born with. My son had one when he was born from immature, unconnected abdominal muscles. Surgical fix is not required or recommended for that either unless the hernia is trapping intestines. As their abdominals strengthen, for instance when my son started walking, the hernia reduced and closed on it's own. My diastasis did the same thing as I did (still doing) this rehab program. My hernia closed within the first 2 weeks. It is not a true hernia. Usually hernias like this are from separated muscles unsupporting the abdominal contents. I don't know that is what yours was, but I'm guessing maybe yours was worse or painful to require a surgical fix. There are lots of before and after pics/testimonies on the maternalfitness.com website. Hernia reductions included.

  • ordinarybutloud@xanga

    @sarahsmurfette@xanga - My hernia was not painful.  However it did not close and I had it for five years.  Likewise, my diastasis did not improve after the third c-section.  While you sound knowledgeable, I trust my OB/gyn, who recommended surgery for my hernia.  All three of my physicians assured me my diastasis was here to stay unless it was corrected surgically.  I admit, I took them at their word, particularly because they were all in agreement.  Generally speaking I don't consider myself qualified to make medical judgments, although I try to research my own problems thoroughly. 

  • sarahsmurfette@xanga

    @ordinarybutloud@xanga - I'm convinced that most hernias/diastasti like this don't just close on their own. They have to be rehabilitated. This does not mean abdominal workouts, as those make the problem worse. I am a medical professional with 12 yrs experience. My drs, both my Ob/Gyns and my primary care physician were not educated on this matter and suggested the only thing they knew which was surgery. They did not consider physical therapy type treatments, which is what the rehab is. I had to use the medical knowledge I had and my research skills to (discouragedly) navigate this. And it took a long time because it's hard to separate the truth from the hype. I just want others to know that surgery is not required, although I'm sure you are happy with your result, at least I hope you are. First of all, not many of us have the funds to pay out of pocket. Smaller mummy tummies are not only for the wealthier of us. That's all I wanted to let people know.

  • ordinarybutloud@xanga

    @sarahsmurfette@xanga - the hernia repair was covered by insurance for me.  I'm not opposed to alternative treatments but I suspect the severity of the problem affects the extent of the results.  Surgery wasn't easy, by the way, and I spent five years thinking about living with it how it was.  It was extremely painful (still painful, 5 weeks out) and risky and frightening.  It has its own downsides.  Yes, I'm very happy with the results, particularly when I read a post like the one I linked and realize how many people judge someone for physical disfigurement they can't control.  I was very very lucky to be able to spend the money on the surgery.  Of course, the site you recommended also requires $$ for the DVDs and the program and the cinch and whatever else.  I respect your experience as a medical professional, but I am skeptical that the Tupler Technique could have solved my problems.  Then I would have felt even worse about myself...because if you're trying to solve a medical problem with rehabilitative exercises, you're bound to blame yourself if they fail.  But I'm very glad for you that it seems to be working and you've had so much success.  

  • sarahsmurfette@xanga

    @ordinarybutloud@xanga - I just want to point out the Tupler Technique program is $80. Much less than surgery or even a personal trainer.

  • ordinarybutloud@xanga

    @sarahsmurfette@xanga - of course.  If it worked, $80 would totally be worth it.

  • TheTheologiansCafe@xanga

    The post was based on another post and he said he preferred thin women sexually.  I was just asking what people thought about that.  I am sorry I messed up the world view of all of those who did not know that some men prefer thin women sexually.

    @AGreatPerhaps@xanga - "I doubt a lot of them could probably find a respectable

    women


    to have a kid with, because a lot of them are that sort of ridiculous,
    illogical, rude scum and therefore they don't have to worry about that
    sort of thing, I doubt the relationship will make it that far if they
    don't grow up."

    No offense but if that is your wife in your profile pic, my wife is far more attractive and we have been married almost 19 years.  Several people on xanga have met my wife and they can back me up on that.  This is just based on the profile pic but I am pretty sure she is 60 pounds lighter than your wife too.

  • StatelessPilot@revelife

    To be totally fair, Dan defended me when nobody else would. He really is a nice guy once you get to know him. You just have to know how to take him, and it did take me quite awhile to figure it out. Be nice, everybody.

  • LilMishas_Ghost@xanga

    My husband has stuck with me through skinny and fat.  Because he loves me.

  • AGreatPerhaps@xanga

    @TheTheologiansCafe@xanga - Oh, high and mighty picking on a 17 year old girl, huh? My wife? No. That is Forrest Kline I believe his name is, he is in the band Hellogoodbye. I am the girl. You're quite the genius, though. Bravo, there, your intellect just never ceases to amaze me. I'm sure she must be quite a gem, considering the catch she got as evidenced here by an absolutely stunning show of your amazing personality and wit. Oh... wait...

    No telling what fatal flaw she must possess to be stuck with you. Thin, pretty, they're okay, but then, if she's even half as stupid as you, is it worth it? Or half as shitty a person as you are. I suppose it's a fitting match, but still.

    But wow... definitely didn't think I could dislike you anymore than I do. But picking on teenage girls for such shallow things, particularly because you know nothing about me, is low even for you. And then... the assumptions you make are just plain ridiculous.

    I can't imagine what the poor thing could have done to deserve you, but I suppose I can't feel too sorry, because she is probably similarly terrible to have ended up with you. Match made in heaven. Looks aren't everything, though. This incident is a perfect reminder of why that is apparently true. Even being attractive apparently can't save you from ending up married to a scumbag.

  • joyouswind@xanga

    I've never been pregnant and I have never seen a woman's belly after she gave birth, so I personally wouldn't know the difference. I guess that mean's I'm stupid.

  • TheTheologiansCafe@xanga

    @AGreatPerhaps@xanga - Oops.  That is you?  That is a nice shirt.

    I was not picking on you.  I just responded to your comment.

  • ordinarybutloud@xanga

    @joyouswind@xanga - I guess that would depend.  If you see a woman with a really big belly but the rest of her looks normal, do you turn to your friend and say, "wow, she really needs to take better care of herself?"    And I'm kidding.  Just kidding.  Wow, people are sensitive over here on momaroo.

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