Tuesday, 13 July 2010
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Vaccination Drama: When The Doctor Doesn't Listen
I think we can all agree that vaccines are one topic that is debated a lot. It definitely comes down to whatever each individual set of parents decide. Some do research and decide against vaccines all together. Others decide to have a delayed vaccine schedule and others decide to just follow the regular schedule (like we decided).
My cousin took her three kids to the doctor, the other day. She told her doctor she didn't want her oldest son to get the chicken pox vaccine. He got some other vaccines, though, including the MMR one. She found out later that the MMR vaccine, that her doctor ordered, was one with the chicken pox vaccine in it. She was livid. Can you blame her?
She told the doctor, specifically, what her wishes were and he went against them. She never even realized that the chicken pox vaccines could be in some of the MMR vaccines.
Whatever you do decide to do, as far as vaccines are considered, doctors need to respect the parents wishes. What that doctor did was very underhanded and wrong. I really hope my cousin is able to report him.
Whatever your stance on vaccines may be, how would you feel if your doctor went against your wishes? How would you react?
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As a parent, I know exactly how she would feel. Doctors are mainly there to, other than for the obvious reasons, suggest what your may child need and what you, as a parent, should do. You can either accept the advice or turn it down but it ends there. That doctor had no right to administer the shot when your sister clearly specified she did not want her son to have it. Her child, her decisions. He definitely should be reported and have his medical license taken away. It may sound extreme but God forbid her son was allergic to the vaccine and something serious happened. It's mind-boggling a doctor would still do something like that after he was asked not to.
I too would be furious.
There are a few things that can be done to prevent this from happening --- find out exactly was "type" of vaccines your doctor uses. There is an MMR shot without the CP portion and you can find out which version your doctor uses. Also, request to see the box or vial that the vaccine was in and make sure that your child is getting EXACTLY what you requested.
this is exactly why we won't be vaccinating at all.
We foster, so we have to comply when it comes to shot for our foster kids, but I always ALWAYS get a copy of the label and ingredients that go into the shot. I have quite the file going.
Plus, the MMR shot is made from aborted fetuses. Not going into my babes thanks.
It sounds like her doctor knew what he was doing when he got the shot that contains the CP, which completely went against her request. I would find a new doctor.
I dont have a kid so I cant say 100% how I would feel, but...Id change the doctor, that's for sure
I have found a solution. Go to a dr who doesn't give the vaccines in his office - or just tell him you're going to a vaccine clinic. We will begin going on our own schedule, in our own time, for the shots we want - at a vaccine clinic. It is no longer a topic of conversation between my doc and me.
I'd be livid and drop the doctor fast as possible.
Up until this past year, my son has been in daycare, and I just stuck to the regular schedule. All our previous doctors have been fantastic about working with whatever we wanted done. I'm hoping our new pedi will be the same.
I plan on doing all the important vaccines (i.e. illnesses that are life threatening/have been eradicated by the use of vaccines) but not as combo vaccines.
I cannot even begin to let myself think about what I would feel. Anger and lividness wouldn't even begin to touch it. So glad I have a family doctor that respects our decisions, even if it's not what he recommends.
Wait....I thought MMR vaccnies are for measles, mumps, and rubella.....not chicken pox. But the MMRV has protection against the varicella virus, aka chicken pox. I would suggest checking which one your cousin's doctor had given the kids before filing something serious.
If the dr really did the opposite of what was requested, then that is a huge problem. But I hope that if your cousin looks into it more, and ASKS the dr what really happened and why that it turns out better than you've said here. I got a vaccine schedule from our pediatrician today for our 3week old so I'd know how they usually do it. Now it's time for me to do my research and see how WE want to do it, Parenting is ever so detailed and complicated, huh?!
I WOULD BE PISSED! We are not doing chicken pox either and I would leave immdeatly and file a complaint however you can!
Also, get "The Vaccine Book" its written by a Dr. and tells exactly how every vaccine works, and what the benefits and risks are. After reading in there are a handful we aren't doing, but are doing most of them still.
Maybe it's just in VA but we have to sign a consent for every.single.vax that is given to our children. I would a) switch peds b)contact the medical licensing board c) write a letter of complaint d) contact the police about the possibility of pressing assault charges. Of course if you don't have to sign something authorizing the vax I'm not sure how you could prove that it was given against her will.
it's usually the nurse who administers teh vaccines, and sometimes the dr doesn't pass all the info to them that you want them to, and sometimes even if he does, they don't pay close attention and just do "the usual" anyway. More than once I've had to stop a nurse from giving a vaccine that the dr knows I don't want given to my children. I ask which onces they're giving before each little stab to my child's leg.
There may have just been a miscommunication.
I don't know if this would constitute malpractice, but I definitely think you have grounds for filing a complaint with your local/state medical association.
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - Shoot, I didn't know about the aborted fetuses thing. My brief Google search revealed that the cell line began in the 1960's... so they're not still harvesting aborted babies today, but the original cell line did involve them. Rather unsettling either way.
I did find an alternative list of vaccines derived from animal cells: http://www.dgwsoft.co.uk/homepages/vaccines/usvaccines.html So I feel pretty awesome for learning something new, and contributing to it! That's what I call a good day.
@juliesally100@xanga - I asked my own doctor, and he says different. He is the one who confirmed what I said.
I would not have known about it to begin with if not for a friend of mine who works in a lab. He has been an incredible source of information
I think if you feel you should vaccinate, then you should, and no one really has the right to tell you otherwise. But i also feel it goes the same the other way. We are not vaccinating because of the information I have found and confirmed with my family Doc. And its the best decision for our family. Which is what it comes down to anyway, what you feel is right for your family.
Oh, yeah, I'm going to be VERY selective of the vaccines my children get (if I have children). The chicken pox vaccine? I don't remember getting that when I was younger... The vaccine, that is.
@juliesally100@xanga - Oh yes, a software consultant's website -- very credible about vaccines. Anyway, the genetic material was taken from two aborted fetuses in the early 60's. The biologists did not induce the abortions. They took human diploid cells which they have been replicating in the lab since then.
"These cell strains do not and cannot form a complete organism and do not constitute a potential human being. The cells reproduce themselves, so there is no need to abort additional fetuses to sustain the culture supply."http://www.immunizationinfo.org/issues/vaccine-components/human-fetal-links-some-vaccines
@T0m03@xanga - I don't know how old you are, but you probably didn't get it because it's fairly new.
I know that quite a few people will disagree with my comment but that's okay. I think that it is irresponsible for parents to not vaccinate their children. I think it is especially irresponsible if their reasoning is the result of religious belief or misuse of google (aka using uncreditable sources).
A doctor should never go against a child or parents wishes. When they go through with things like this it makes them as well as their clinic look bad. If said child were to have an adverse effect because of said vaccine then the doctor could very well lose their license. Seems a doctor will do whatever they can, even if against wishes of their patients, to get an extra buck.
yeah there may have been some mis-communication on somebody's part, or between the doctor getting the vaccine or something...
I would be mad too.
At least you guys get your kids vaccines!! I know this woman who refuses to get her kid vaccines because one of her children had some allergic reaction or something or other to ONE vaccine. But nevermind the fact that if her child goes to a daycare or a school, its germ city and he could die of something easily prevented with vaccines. Worse though she is too lazy/stupid to go through the courts to get the proper paperwork explaining why she won't get vaccines, because you can do that, get paperwork so you don't have to get your kid shots. But if she isn't getting the paperwork, so far its neglect, and I feel sorry for that kid, he's always sick and everything. blah. people!!!
even if I agree with vaccines, I would be pissed~
@lifeonacitybusem4@xanga - Oooh, okay... I'm 22 and I got the chicken pox when I was 6. So does that mean the vaccine completely prevents children to get the chicken pox at all?
Well, I think I'd like to hear the full the story before commenting on this particular doctor. This entry makes it sound as though he intentionally gave the shot in spite of the mother's wishes, when it's highly possible that a mistake was made (albeit a serious one) or there was a miscommunication somewhere along the line.
Either way, she has a right to be upset. I would be, too. Although, I plan to vaccinate my kids against everything so I probably won't have the same problem
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - ARE YOU SERIOUS? Aborted fetuses? Where did you hear that? D:
@WalnutCake@xanga - a friend who works in a lab. When I asked my doctor he confirmed it. And I don't know where this info is that this was only in the 60's, but I spoke to the doctor about it within the last 6 months.