Wednesday, 21 October 2009
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Live Viruses in The Vaccines
It’s not a typo, the main ingredient in the GlaxoSmithKline and Novartis vaccines contain a LIVE VIRUS, an attenuated virus meaning it’s a weakened form of the swine flu virus. Attenuated vaccines can be deadly and cause virus shedding, when a person is injected with an attenuated live virus the organism moves through the human body possibly infecting the host and then exiting through the feces, mucous membranes and saliva glands of the inoculated person. This is called ‘virus shedding’ and can last for weeks. [Source]
Do you really want to risk your health and inject live swine flu into your bloodstream in hopes it will immunize? Please don't take that chance.
GlaxoSmithKline’s version of swine flu vaccine has been confirmed to contain Thimerosal, a preservative for vaccines mainly composed of highly toxic mercury. Mercury is the 2nd most toxic metal on the planet and is known to cause autism and other neural injuries in children. The vaccine also contains formaldehyde, a cancer-causing chemical most commonly used for embalming dead bodies for preservation. [Source]Doctors and hospitals are expressing concern that the FluMist vaccine could endanger people because it contains live H1N1 virus, unlike the injectable shot that contains antibodies. With no less than 60 per cent of the U.S. population immunodeficient in one way or another, could FluMist be a pandemic waiting to happen?
Hospitals in Colorado and elsewhere are shunning the FluMist H1N1 vaccine, a nasal spray that contains live swine flu virus, because of fears it could infect people with weakened immune systems and underlying health conditions.
“Several metro area hospitals said they won’t be taking the FluMist because they don’t want to endanger patients,” reports TheDenverChannel.com.
The live virus contained in the nasal spray is weakened but it can be transmitted from person to person for up to three weeks.
The nasal spray is being rolled out on a mass scale before the widespread introduction of the injectable vaccine. Some fear that the nasal spray will contribute to a wider pandemic, which will then provide governments with the crisis they need to make the injectable vaccine mandatory.
According to the Mayo Clinic, the swine flu scandal of 1976, when more people died from the vaccine than the actual virus, was what caused the live virus to be removed from future vaccines. However, it is admitted that FluMist contains the live virus.“It has been documented that the live viruses from the vaccine can be shed (and potentially spread into the community) from recipient children for up to 21 days, and even longer from adults. Viral shedding also puts breastfeeding infants at risk if the mother has been given FluMist,” writes Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, one of the most outspoken physicians in the country on the hazards of vaccines and vaccination.
FluMist’s own package insert reads as follows, “FluMist® recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days.”
With no less than 60 per cent of the U.S. population immunodeficient in one way or another, could FluMist be a pandemic waiting to happen?
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I will repost my response that I placed on BereanChristian's site:
//It’s not a typo, the main ingredient in the GlaxoSmithKline and
Novartis vaccines contain a LIVE VIRUS, an attenuated virus meaning
it’s a weakened form of the swine flu virus.//
That is the case with most if not all vaccines.
//This is called ‘virus shedding’ and can last for weeks.//
This occurs whether you have the vaccine or are infected with the full-fledged virus.
//
Do you really want to risk your health and inject live swine flu
into your bloodstream in hopes it will immunize? Please don't take that
chance.
//
Right, because taking in an attenuated virus is far worse than experiencing the real thing itself. *insert sarcasm here*
//GlaxoSmithKline’s version of swine flu vaccine has been confirmed to contain Thimerosal,
a preservative for vaccines mainly composed of highly toxic mercury.
Mercury is the 2nd most toxic metal on the planet and is known to cause
autism and other neural injuries in children.//
Thiomersal
(note the spelling) contains a different form of organo-mercury
materials, specifically ethylmercury. Ethylmercury, like its nastier
cousin methylmercury, travels freely throughout the body, but is
cleared more effectively. The thing with metal poisoning is that it (1)
depends on the form of the metal and type of exposure, and (2) requires
a constant, cumulative effect in order to have any issue with our
health - thus a one-time exposure to thiomersal via vaccine is as
harmless, if not moreso, as walking outdoors (where we have exposure to
naturally-occurring radioactive Uranium, Thorium, Potassium-40, C-14,
etc., not to mention bombardment by UV rays). There is no evidence that
exposure to thiomersal in vaccines causes autism in children (if you
have evidence to the contrary, please provide it), and only a small
portion of the population has any allergic reaction to it (not much
different than peanut butter allergies, lactose intolerance, etc).
//The
vaccine also contains formaldehyde, a cancer-causing chemical most
commonly used for embalming dead bodies for preservation.//
It's
also found in trace amounts in the bloodstream as naturally-occurring
(given that it's necessary in the formation of certain biochemicals
like DNA). It naturally occurs in higher concentrations in the
bloodstream, even in infants, than in a single vaccine, and even the
concentrations in vaccines are well within health safety limits.
//Doctors and hospitals are expressing concern that the FluMist vaccine
could endanger people because it contains live H1N1 virus, unlike the
injectable shot that contains antibodies.//
The
injectable shot contains attenuated strains as well - in addition, they
contain additional killed or broken-down influenza components that
trigger antibody production (they do not contain antibodies
themselves). The spray specifically delivers the attenuated strains
only. Either way, you're going to get attenuated (live but weakened)
virus strains.
//With no less than 60 per cent of the U.S. population immunodeficient in
one way or another, could FluMist be a pandemic waiting to happen?//
Source?
//Hospitals in Colorado and elsewhere are shunning the FluMist H1N1
vaccine, a nasal spray that contains live swine flu virus, because of
fears it could infect people with weakened immune systems and
underlying health conditions.//
Makes
sense. The spray is not advised for those below 2 or older than 50, for
the reason of immunosuppression, and partly due to the method of
delivery. That's why we can still fall back to the injection as an
alternative (with injection, there is no chance of aerosolization of
the attenuated virus since it's not in vapor form).
//
According to the Mayo Clinic,
the swine flu scandal of 1976, when more people died from the vaccine
than the actual virus, was what caused the live virus to be removed
from future vaccines. However, it is admitted that FluMist contains the
live virus.//
If
you read your source properly, you'll see that the Mayo Clinic could
not find a causal link between the inclusion of the attenuated flu and
the number of deaths. Sure, they took it out in subsequent vaccines,
but not because of any proof that there was a link; rather, it was a
precautionary measure. Now, we know better about the nature of the
virus, and we can better apply our skills in controlling the nature of
the virus in its applications to vaccines.
It's fine to be
skeptical of the government and/or Big Pharma, but making decisions
based on poor reasoning will only harm you and others around you.
yuck illness take care of thoses I meant they make you weak.
My main concerns with vaccines in general are two fold. I think they are overdoing it when they vaccinate children against too many viruses in too short a period and I don't like to let the children in my care be vaccinated with any new vaccines because until it is used on a large population they really can't be sure of it's dangers or effectiveness. We use the limited vaccination method with the children and thus far it has worked very well for us.
As with the regular flu, I'd rather keep my immune system as healthy as possible and use good hygiene for prevention. Should I contract the virus, which I'm not scared of, I'll stay home, rest a lot, drink fluids and do whatever is necessary to overcome the illness. I don't have a compromised immune system so I really don't feel the benefits of this vaccine (or the regular flu vaccine) outweigh the risks. I don't have the 'it could never happen to me' attitude, but I believe there is more power to the body's natural defense system if we let it do what it's supposed to do (again, keeping in mind I don't have a weakened immune system).
@echois23@xanga - We are practicing the delayed/selective vaccine method with our son as well. We are leaning toward no-vaccinations, but we're taking each one into consideration at the right time. We won't be doing any vaccinating for 6 months to a year regardless. If you follow the standard vaccine schedule, there are at least 49 injections before the age of six. I don't see how anyone can look at that and feel comfortable with all of those chemicals going into the body at such a young age.
The weakened form of the virus may make you sick but you get the antibodies from it & it's not as bad as catching the full blown deal. I can understand the fear of vaccines but the pros outweigh the cons. Exposing others to dangerous things isnt right.
I recently got over the flu but I was only sick for a few days instead of 2+ weeks because I had gotten a shot & I started medicating the moment I got sick...which didnt take long. That Saturday I was great & Sunday I woke up with a fever, body aches & chills like whoa...
@DirtyAndShaken@xanga - I wish xanga had a "like" feature for posts/comments. :) I agree (with both of your comments!)
as for me and my house, we will remain vaccine free
I have spent the last 5 years doing in depth research on both sides, and I have yet to find any information that can sway me from this position. I started out very much in favor of vaccines, now nothing in the world could make me inject myself or someone i love with this poison.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/21/Special-Swine-Flu-Update.aspx
thats all i have to say.
and by the way, the MMR vaccine contains tissue of aborted fetuses. Even if you chose to subject your child to only one part of it, each part contains this tissue.
All drs have this information. I am blessed to have one who will give it to me without a fight.
The "virus shedding" is what worries me the most. Even if the live virus vaccine does it's job, you could still infect someone if you forget to wash your hands after going to the bathroom or whatever. Which is why I think it's ridiculous that staff at ob-gyn offices are taking the FluMist...they're putting their patients at risk.
I'm mostly anti-vaccines anyway, but if you want to get vaccinated PLEASE get the killed-virus types...don't put the rest of us at risk!
Wow, first of all, if you choose not to vaccinate yourself, and do come down with H1N1... even if you have mild symptoms, you are potentially spreading it to others who could have worse effects. There have been nasal mist versions of the vaccine in place of the flu shot on many occasions. If you are pregnant however, your immune system is weakened and you should get the shot instead. Flu can develop into pneumonia, especially in those with weaker immune systems... those pregnant, younger children, etc.
Also, washing your hands does NOT prevent a virus from spreading. The CDC has noted this. A virus is carried in the air and passed through air particles... not through touching a contaminated surface. Bacterial infections, on the other hand, do spread through poor hygiene/hand washing.
So bottom line, no amount of washing/disinfecting will help in the prevention of H1N1 or seasonal flu. NO one has had adverse affects yet to the H1N1 vaccine and thousands have been vaccinated. Not vaccinating yourself, means you are putting others at risk... those pregnant and others with weaker immune systems.
If you're afraid of the nasal mist, get the shot. Simple as that. Do your part to stop the spread of this pandemic. I am a school teacher, and many of my students have been gone with the flu, including H1N1. The sooner people are vaccinated, the healthier we will remain as a nation. This strain of flu has been more deadly than others. It is not worth the risk to not vaccinate yourself against it. CDC is now saying if you get the flu, it is probably H1N1. The other flu strains have pretty much been overroad with H1N1.
I don't think I have EVER (correct that, I KNOW I HAVE NEVER) read an article on momaroo that I disagree with more.
You will NOT get full-blown H1N1 from a vaccine... nasal or the shot. You may come down with mild flu-like symptoms for a couple of days, but SO WHAT? At least you are not spreading the virus to others and potentially leaving yourself to be infected with something that could potentially be fatally harmful.
Think of it this way, if you get the virus (which if you don't get the vaccine, the CDC has reported that you most likely WILL get the virus) you are more likely to die from it, than the likelyhood that you will have harsh side-affects from the vaccine. No one has died from the vaccine (or even had majorly ill affects) yet many are hospitalized and have died from H1N1.
You do the math.
@QuantumStorm@xanga - @isumath07@xanga - Thank you.
The swine flu vaccine isn't necessary for most healthy adults.
But those with weak immune systems (like me) and children? It would be MUCH safer to be infected with a weaker form of the virus than the full strength virus (that's what they put into vaccines - weakened live virus).
Plus, if you pay attention, all places administering the shots are using the actual injection for pregnant women, immunocompromised people, and children. The nasal mist is intended for healthy adults who are unlikely to have severe complications from the full or weakened virus.
I'm not sold on every vaccine in the world. But for me to get swine flu (or the regular flu) would be very dangerous. And the same is true for many other people, adults and children. I agree with QuantamStorm - you need to fully investigate/read all the claims you are making. And please don't spread unnecessary fear. Most people may not need the vaccine at all - that's true. But the injectable vaccine is aimed at people with compromised immune systems or underdeveloped immune systems (children). This contains the killed virus. Thimerosol has not been proven to do damage. I was vaccinated for everything as a child and do not have autism, and my current health problems are not caused by vaccinations. I am all for being educated about what you are putting into your or your children's bodies, but this is fear-mongering and propaganda. I'm not telling you to get the vaccine, I'm just saying it's important to present all sides of the story.
@isumath07@xanga - Actually, handwashing can help to prevent the spread of most viruses (not all). It depends on how the virus is spread...flu viruses are spread through droplets from someone's mucus or saliva...so if someone itches their nostrils or bites their nails without washing their hands, and goes to shake someone else's hand, the virus can be spread this way. It can also be spread by someone just coughing or sneezing on someone else, or worse, into their hand, and touching someone else after that. Another virus, like Rotavirus, is spread through contact of bodily fluids, mainly feces. So contact precautions and handwashing are of utmost importance to prevent the spread of viruses like this. There are all different types of viruses, and some may not be spread by the hands at all, but regardless, handwashing CAN prevent the spread of most viruses. Bacteria is the same way...some forms, like tuberculosis, can be spread through the air or on the hands. So just try not to tell people that handwashing won't help to prevent viruses from spreading because that is untrue. I'm not sure why the CDC is throwing people off like that.
I got the mist vaccine to protect my 3 month old son. I was sort of glad it was me getting the new vaccine instead of him. The only thing that's happened is I got a nasty cold at the nasty health department while I was getting it. (no fever, body aches, or cough, so it's not flu related).
@MommyGEM_RN@xanga -
I am fully aware that handwashing prevents some types of respiratory flu and other infections. However, H1N1 is a strain that is mostly spread through air particles... a person doesn't have to sneeze... but simply breath the same air as you. My point was that we shouldn't rely on hygiene alone to prevent H1N1. The virus is too strong.
http://www.safetynewsalert.com/does-hand-washing-really-stop-spread-of-h1n1-flu/
Of course one should wash their hands, but saying that a vaccine isn't necessary because good hygiene will prevent the spread of H1N1 is also not true.
Those with students in school should be especially careful... students travel from room to room and 1 child can have a huge affect on others' health. Some schools are closing because over 20% of their students are out with the flu... most being H1N1 cases.
@whitetrashpoet@xanga -
Well stated.
@isumath07@xanga - they do not know if most are H1N1 because they are not testing. They are assuming.
gross.
And us anti-vaccination folks get criticized. *shakes head and sighs*
@sugartomyhoney@xanga -
They are still testing around here... with numerous cases of H1N1.
@isumath07@xanga - I don't know where "around here" is, but it is an expensive test and takes 2 weeks to get the results. If they are not testing "around here" I don't believe they are testing anywhere. Maybe you think they are because they sound so sure when they say 100 people have the swine flu (fill in your own number). National News organizations are stating that they are not testing. Are you saying I should not believe the mainstream media???? Wow! What a surprise that would be!
Everyone who wants to educate themselves, please check out this site.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/21/cbsnews_investigates/main5404829.shtml
Probably. I wouldn't put it past them to want to make the injections mandatory, but I would rather not believe that they'd go as far as to make us all sick on purpose to do it. :/
Either way, I don't intend to have the FluMist vaccination. I probably won't have the injection vaccination either. But, that's just me.
I thought everyone knew that the FluMist had a live, but weakened, strain of the virus. o.o; And I thought the ingredients were known pretty widely, as well. Hm. They seem to mention at least the fact about the weakened live strain whenever they have an article about the FluMist vaccine. At least the articles I read did. o.o; Right from the very start.
Well, anyway, I don't intend to take either of the vaccines.
@sugartomyhoney@xanga -
I have family (in Iowa) who has tested positive within the last week for H1N1. I'm not telling you what to believe...
Yes, a lot of places aren't testing... that doesn't mean that everywhere isn't. Furthermore if a person has a severe case, it is necessary to know exactly what it is in some cases.