Thursday, 08 October 2009

  • Is It Safe For A Baby To Be on a Vegetarian/Vegan Diet?

    Is It Safe For A Baby To Be on a Vegetarian/Vegan Diet?
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    As you all might have noticed, vegetarian/vegan diets have increased dramatically within these past several years and for awhile I thought nothing of it. I figured, you know, it's healthy and who knows, you might lose a few pounds.

    But after watching an episode of House M.D. (no I'm not relying on a fictional TV show for accurate facts) and there was a part in the episode where the two parents were vegans and therefore raising their child the same way.

    Apparently it was dangerous for them to put their baby on such a diet because she couldn't fight infections properly. It got me to be really curious about the topic.

    What do you think? Would it be unhealthy to raise a baby on such a diet? Or do you think they should start off eating meat until they're older to decide for themselves what their diet should be?

Comments (78)

  • bubbelcat

    I would think the trick would be getting enough fat to aid in brain development and enough protein for muscle.  

  • iiinfinitesimal@xanga

    oh... i was planning on raising my children as vegetarians/pescatarians. i think that because they are children/babies, you can pretty much make them eat what you want (i.e. spinach) but i guess you would want to consult your pediatrician before going all out

  • Katja88@xanga

    I'm all about the meat, but I wouldn't stop my sister from raising her children (if she ever has any) vegetarian.  One must be very careful to make sure baby is getting all the important nutrients, as pointed out above.  And it's important that baby (at any age) be introduced to meat slowly if that decision is made.  Otherwise, go for it.

  • tryingtofind_me@xanga

    I plan on raising my kids vegetarian for as long as I can. My husband isn't veg, so I'm sure eventually they'll ask for a bite of his burger or whatever, but I'm going to try my best to make my children realize what meat is and where is comes from. So many people have a disconnect and don't fully realize that those shiny perfect packages of meat at the store were once a living breathing creature. I'm seeing lots of petting zoo and farm trips in my children's future.


    I think it can definitely be healthy if done right. I plan on seeking the advice of a nutritionist who has counseled other veg parents. And I think the idea that eating meat as a child (or ever) is "normal" should be rethought. There is no "normal", it's whatever feels right for you and your family.  
  • fugita@xanga

    @tryingtofind_me@xanga - I agree I was a pretty much a vegetarian *only eating meat once in a blue moon* before I meet my girl who is a vegan and since I have gone vegan.

    I would agree if done right then no it is not a bad thing.  If you are a junketarian like many vegetarians/vegans can be then of course it is bad.  If eating french fries all the time is your idea of being a vegetarian/vegan then no that is not healthy.  But if you eat a balanced meal with plenty of fruits, vegetables,  nuts *for fat*, and beans then yes it can be healthy. Besides if you want meat there is always TVP Textured Veg Protein.  One pound of the crumble can be used to replace one pound of meat in any recipe and it tastes great!

  • Pandiie_Bear@xanga

    Some people put their babies on a vegan/vegetarian diet without doing the proper research about it. THAT is dangerous. If proper research is done and that baby gets everything he/she needs, it's not dangerous at all. It's healthier in fact. :] I just wish parents would be more careful and take the proper steps before trying something like that. Babies need different things that adult vegetarians do.

  • enyas_mom@xanga

    I think as long as you do it with the proper informatin it would be fine.  As small children I know some doctors would want them on a vitamen if they are not getting enough of something, but really what you want to feed your child as long as they are healthy is your choice. 

  • MarnieAyn@xanga

    I think it is very unhealthy a baby needs the nutrients and protein from meat to grow up strong.

  • the_life_of_pie@xanga

    ok. i think that


    1. they need protein


    2. if they dont have enough fat, they wont absorb fat based vitamins A,D, E, and K. it doesnt just matter if they GET the vitamin, they have to store it.


    A is for eyesight in the dark, D is for absorption of calcium, E is an antioxidant and K is needed for blood clotting when they go running around and bonking into things.


    no. unless you want to risk a malnourished blind osteoporotic baby whose blood wont clot for the sake of a chicken.

  • PrinsesAna@xanga

    Reading some of these replies make me laugh. "unless you want to risk a malnourished blind osteoporotic baby whose blond wont clot for the sake of a chicken" was she serious???? LOL!

    In the episode of house you are referencing the baby was about 6 months old and wasn't getting enough nutrients from the soy formula they were feeding them. Most babies (and i say most because some ppl are just disgusting with what they feed their children) don't eat meat until they are well over a year. They eat lots of pureed fruits and veggies and milk.

    I am a vegetarian my husband is not. I agree with alot of the veggie mommies on here, I would raise my children vegetarian and make sure they are fully aware of where meat is coming from.

  • ohritz@xanga



    @the_life_of_pie@xanga - 

    ok. i think that

    That's your first mistake right there.  You missed the actual think and research part of your statement.

    1. they need protein

    You can get protein a lot of different ways eating as a vegan; soy, nuts and beans, etc.

    2.
    if they dont have enough fat, they wont absorb fat based vitamins A,D,
    E, and K. it doesnt just matter if they GET the vitamin, they have to
    store it.

    You can eat things with a high, healthy fat count; dressings with olive oil, avocados, nuts, etc.

    A is for eyesight in the dark, D is for absorption
    of calcium, E is an antioxidant and K is needed for blood clotting when
    they go running around and bonking into things.

    no. unless you want to risk a malnourished blind osteoporotic baby whose blood wont clot for the sake of a chicken.

    That's just an asinine comment.  Do you think that you can only get all of these things in meat?




  • TornadoChaser

    Yes it is perfectly safe, with planning and research. Being omnivore doesn't guarantee good nutrition without proper research either. Also there are a lot of health risk that come from eating animal products as well that I'd rather my family not have to deal with. A good book on that is The China Study by Campbell. 


    I personally feel that no matter if you are vegan, vegetarian or omnivore you should really research and learn what is in your foods from vitamins and minerals to the extra crap like growth hormones and antibiotics and their effects on the body. Do your research no matter what you are feeding your kids. 
    I am vegan and my boys (5, 3 and 2) are vegetarian. I don't worry so much about random milk and honey in some things for them but they eat 99% vegan. They are healthy, active young boys. 


  • LadyGwenivere@xanga

    hrm interesting post.
    We did not eat meat for awhile, but that was because we could not afford to buy organic free range meat/milk/eggs. Now we can. I actually found that I got sick if I did not get enough red meat, but I also know even body works differently. We don't eat pork or turkey, because they are scavenger animals (so told to me by our local butcher, who is Jewish), but we get organic chicken and beef. Eggs we get from a friend's farm and milk we buy organic. Yes its more expensive, but it works for our family.
    If one of my children wanted to be vegan/vegetarian I would fully support that provided they would eat what they needed to eat to stay healthy.

  • xjadersx@xanga

    Well if it is done properly it might be okay.

    I have two cousins who have been vegetarian and they were always sick when they were younger.

    I don't know very much about this stuff.

  • prettyboy78@xanga

    Studies have shown that anyone can be healthy on a vegetarian/vegan diet IF DONE RIGHT, that's the key.
    People on ANY kind of diet can and are unhealthy, I don't know if raising a baby on a vegetarian/vegan diet can harm them or not, I personally don't think enough research on those doing it the right way has been done to decide that yet. Obviously if a baby isn't getting the nutrients it needs, regardless of the type of diet it's going to be unhealthy.

    But you do realize this statement is stupid in YOUR argument: "Or do you think they should start off eating meat until they're older to decide for themselves what their diet should be?"
    The reason it's stupid is lots of people go vegetarian/vegan after BEING RAISED on meat, most as a matter of fact, I know of few people who have only ALWAYS been veg because their parents were. Besides, ask most teens and young kids, most only want JUNK FOOD, another reason that statement was stupid.

  • ILoveJesusBetterThanIceCream@xanga

    It's not really that healthy for anyone.  I wouldn't put a baby on a compromised diet on purpose. It's hard enough getting a balanced diet as it is, let alone with such a heavy restriction.

  • Fairywife@xanga

    As long as they're healthy it's fine. Anyway, when they get older, chances are they'll decide for themselves whether they want meat or not. I know if I was raised that way, I'd wonder what meat tasted like and probably go for it. lol.

  • bubbelcat

    I'm still stuck on the fat thing though, and I'm not being argumentative I'm just curious.  If your breastfeeding obviously there should be no dietary issues as long as mom is getting enough nutrients.  But if you are formula feeding (and correct me if I'm wrong but Soy formula is not necessarily vegan, it can still contain animal fats just not milk proteins?) and supplementing with food babies can't really eat nuts and aren't supposed to be eating nut butters.  Since most of their food is pureed there is very little oil used in the processing/cooking unless you go out of your way to add it (we made our own baby food) and there is only so much avocado you can eat.   Now once they're about 18 months, have teeth and are past the allergy stage I can see it becoming MUCH easier to balance their fat needs but I'm having a hard time seeing how a bottle feeding mom would do it.

  • bubbelcat

    Oh and I wanted to address the "where food comes from" issue.  Don't think that because your children know where meat comes from it will automatically keep them veg.  My kids have been to plenty of farms including meat and dairy farms.  They also know some of their relatives hunt and fish for food.  We happen to buy our meat from a very progressive farm, the animals are raised and slaughtered humanely and our kids know that and know that is why we buy our meat direct from the source.  I doubt you could find a kid on earth that adores animals more than my son but the idea of giving up meat has never crossed his mind even though we have told the children their whole lives that if they ever wanted to go veg. we'd support them and in fact we eat very little meat as it is.

  • KimisBarbie@xanga

    i don't think it would be very healthy.  I was a vegetarian when I got pregnant, and I wasn't healthy enough, so i started eating meat again. I never even considered raising my child as  vegetarian.  Babies can't eat nuts, so they won't really be getting much protein. 
    I did notice that I got sick a lot more when I didn't eat meat.  I don't know if that makes a difference, but I'd want to do everything to make sure my baby's as healthy as possible.

  • PoetMcChick@xanga

    As far as the vegan diet goes (which IS healthy but is lacking in some very much-needed nutrients) taking a multi-vitamin (which, technically you should be doing anyways) should save the part of the protein and such.

    My supervisor at work went vegan in february and has lost over 70 pounds (combined with exercise, which is what this type of lifestyle kinda sets you up for) and I thought heyyyyyy why not. Since my biggest weakness is chicken, I'm giving up one type of food each month until I either a) see results or b) am completely Vegan. So far I've given up red meat (something I never really thought I ate much of to begin with) and have lost 8 pounds since the middle of September. Sure, it's not DRAMATIC weight loss, but it's something that will probably stay because it wasn't lost at the drop of a hat.

  • XxFireXboltxX@xanga

    We eat a lot of meat. My husband hunts and so most of our meat is venison and wild pig, occasionally a wild bird like a turkey or doves so....the chances of my son being vegan or vegetarian is highly unlikely. It's much more likely that he'll be out hunting with his dad by the time he's six or seven.

    I'm not entirely sure it is the safest thing for a baby or a young child. Maybe that needs to be something that they choose on their own when they realize what foods they do and don't like. It would probably work with a young child (under three) if you are supplementing them with breastmilk because then they are going to get the fats they need. If they aren't still nursing or taking breastmilk, they need the fats from cow's milk or goat's milk to help with brain development.

    @KimisBarbie@xanga - I had several friends who were vegetarians till they got pregnant and their doctor strongly urged them to eat meat AT LEAST once a week. Most of them ended up craving it before the pregnancy was over.

  • whitetrashpoet@xanga

    It's possible to be safely vegetarian. I sincerely hope that anyone who raises their children vegetarian/vegan does their research and consults with their doctor - if they do, I have no problem!

    I, however, simply cannot maintain good health as a vegetarian. No one knows why. I can eat perfectly, take the right supplements, etc., and I get weak and anemic and ill. So I eat white meat and fish. And because of this (and because my husband loves meat) we would never raise our kids vegetarian, but would be accepting if they chose that lifestyle later, as long as they are healthy about it.
    I just try my best to buy meat from humanely slaughtered animals and local farms.

    My real pet peeve is with people who try to feed dogs and cats vegetarian/vegan diets That's just stupid. There are plenty of arguments as to whether or not humans are designed to eat meat, but dogs and cats are quite obviously so!

  • black_lie@xanga

    I think it would be a lot easier on me as a mom if I didn't have to worry as much about what foods to combine to make sure my kids had all their proteins and amino acids and vitamins. Anyway, I'm just put off from this entire topic because of that (sad but true) horror story about the German vegan parents who killed their kid through negligence. They gave it only apple juice, not even breast milk... which should be the most natural thing to feed your child! :(

  • Lil_Firefly_25@xanga

    I wouldn't think it would be very healthy...then again I'm a carnivore, so my kids would definitely get meat when they were old enough. :P

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