Friday, 03 July 2009
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Marriage: A Fallen Fairytale?
photo credit: http://www.jpgmag.com/photos/645759
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Dearest Xangans,
A friend sent me this photo, and I am very intrigued by it. It is a very poignant illustration of fantasy vs. reality when it comes to love and marriage. When you look at this photo what do you see? Are you as intrigued by it as I am?
I personally believe in the commitment of marriage, but at the same time I can understand how we can easily take each other for granted and forget the love that was once there. It is hard to swallow the statistic that 50% of marriages fail, but I wonder how many people give up on something that is salvageable.
I got pretty good insight on my last entry On Love. Here are two that stuck out:
"remember that a marriage is only unrecoverable when both parties have given up and there's no plan for the future." davidmiya
"I have been married for 19 years and it's not easy. Someone said something and it helps. Marriage works as long as you both don't fall out of love at the same time. We've never both wanted to give up at the same time but we sure have had a lot of rough patches." WintersWitch
My husband and I are newlyweds, but we have been together over ten years (!!). It's a long time considering my age, and I cannot say we haven't had our rough patches. Somehow we always conquer it, but not without a lot of heartache I must say. For myself, I always rely on many factors: the support of those around me, the inner strength inside me,a strong faith in divine providence, and a strong sense of dedication to what I believe in.
When I was little girl I loved fairy tales. I guess as many girls do, they have that fantasy of being swept off their feet by some charming guy so you can live happilly ever after. I don't know when it dawned on me the reality is more like the one above.
What is your take on long term committment/marriage? Do you think people have a good grasp of what it takes to make it work these days? Is the above picture a good rendition of reality?
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i don't agree with davidmiya. If one person is done, totally totally done, then the marriage is done.
I'm not saying some don't give up way too easily but there are some who hold on way too long out of nothing other than fear of change.
That picture... is how I personally view marriage. Then again, I am commitment-phobic, and have no idea how to make it work successfully (but I'm not married, thankfully.) I think people go into marriage idealistically and then end up seeing the reality of the situation ... hence the high divorce rate. I think most people (myself included) are clueless as to how to make it work... and so they bail. I'm inclined to believe that marriage is Hard Work - and most people are too lazy to keep at it. I'm not afraid of that part - I'm afraid of trying to Work Hard with the "wrong" person. This is what keeps me from actively pursuing it ... and pictures like this accurately sum up my fears.
Well, call me an idealistic. We have been married for 30 years. We have been thro some incredible hard times, but it made us stronger. TILL DEATH DO US PART! My take on todays couples are they get LOVE / PASSION mixed up. The most important thing that couples can do today is respect yourself enough to never stoop low enough to disrespect your mate. So many mates don`t deserve our respect so we stoop to their level of disrespect. Then we look for PASSION elsewhere but we need to put PASSION back into our marriage. Go before God and seek Him if there are ways you are contributing to the cycle of disrespect. I am not asking mates to stay in dangerous situations in their marriages but if they have contributed to disrespect it will be a dangerous element for any future relationships they will enter into. I have seen couples make worse decisions the second time around then what they destroyed their marriages / families / homes over. Thats a terrible tragedy.
I believe that marriage is something that you shouldn't enter unless you know what it is you're getting into, and that's a LIFE LONG commitment to one other person. My husband and I have been through hell and we are still going. The key is to never fall out of love at the same time.
I feel that marriage is unnecessary. Long-term commitment, on the other hand, is something very special.
I would say the above picture is a good rendition of reality if I had 4 under the age of 3 (looks like a 2 year old, a 1 year old and twin babies to me). :)
But seriously, yes, if your idea of reality is based on a fairy tale, you will be sorely disappointed rather quickly. Knowing that life isn't like that makes it easier to handle. I think that perception is a huge factor to happiness.
I honestly don't see marriage as work. It's the easiest part of my life. My DH and I have been married for 11 1/2 years. We both worked until recently. My DH got laid off in March. We share the housework and the child raising. He's my best friend. We do have our arguments but I can't imagine us ever splitting up.
The above photo definitey rings true in my house! Thankfully no kids yet, but with as bad is it is with just a dog, maybe there won't be... Men end up with a mindset that their work ends when they come home, whereas we're stuck working til we sleep and then having nightmares that we're still working!
As for when the marriage becomes unsalvageable, I think there is always still time to work on it as long as there's still any bit of love left. My mother gave me the most straightforward advice during one of my rough spots: "Can you imagine living your life, never seeing or thinking about him ever again?" Nope. "Then I guess you'll just have to learn to live with him."
I don't see marriage as something someone has to have in order to live a happy life. Marriage requires a lot of time and commitment, and its definitely something people jump into way before they're ready because they're in love with the IDEA of marriage rather than the actual person they are marrying. This may not be true for everyone, but it is obviously true for the majority of people in this country given our ridiculously high divorce rate.
how can you save a marriage when one person has checked out, totally done with the relationship? but keeping the marriage alive is hard work and nothing easy....it's never 50/50 but someone always gives in more.
50% of marriages don't fail...it's a skewed statistic...don't take it seriously.
My opinion: marriages all over the world are in trouble because of humanity's SELFISHNESS. Marriage takes selfLESSness, compromise, patience, grace, and many other qualities than most people don't have or don't exhibit. Bottom line: if you're not willing to put someone else's happiness ahead of yours at least 51% of the time, you are not marriage material and/or your marriage will not last.
Fairytale marriage is a myth. Having a life-long marriage full of joy and love, however, is not. It just takes work.
Somehow that picture reminds me of an Asian family, where the husband does nothing and the wife takes care of every single thing...
And I don't believe in fairy tales either, they are just too good to be true, or at least for me to believe in them anymore.But I do believe that marriage can last long, but only when you and your partner truly love eachother... But I don't pay much attention to marriage. What's the point of marriage anyway?
@averyswife@xanga - Well said :)
I'm a newlywed (6 months), but we have lived together for 2 1/2 years and been together for 4 years. I'm 20, and he's 22. We've already been through more than most couples that I know have been together for over 10 years. I can't imagine divorcing him for anything other than physical abuse. We've helped each other with mental illnesses (we both have them), wrong medication for those illnesses (which left me in a complete fit not knowing what I was doing and being in a constant state of crazy), hospitalizations, infidelity, and dog raising. (no children yet). Those are hard things to deal with (we have a loveably-evil puppy!). We are still getting a handle on our mental illnesses and sometimes we still talk about the cheating, but as much stress as it can cause, it doesn't even compare with the all of the memories we have created and the family we have. The only thing it affects is our Baby Bug. We are definitely going to have a bigger handle on my anxiety and his depression before we have kids. I'm extremely happy with him, and I hope that I always will be. Even if I pack up the dogs and spend the weekend at my mom's to chill, I still want to be with him. Marriage requires work, some more than others, but friendship and love should always prevail.
Sadly, I know people our age that are on 2nd divorces already. I don't know the reasons behind most of them, but some of them are as simple as, "we argued too much." When I find that the hubs and I are arguing a lot, we have talk about what's going on in life and what we're arguing about. Are we taking stress out on each other or is one of us doing something recently and repeatedly that needs to be addressed? Taking some time away isn't a bad thing. Going to the movies with a friend or being in separate rooms for a while can be a good. :)
Well, for us anyway.
Edit: I also keep our problems between us. We never argue in public or around other people. Sometimes I talk to my close friends to vent some steam before talking to him, but they're like family for me. That seems to help keep the argument short-lived as well as avoiding bringing people into our fight that don't need to be. We don't even fight in front of the dogs. It upsets the oldest.
Well, my marriage is relatively young (five years) but we dated for five before getting married. I think the fairy tale ideal isn't the only thing to blame for misconceptions of what being married is. I happen to know a lot of women and men who take for granted that they are "supposed" to be respected and loved just because they live and breath. The most important thing I've discovered in my marriage is to be grateful for the little things my husband does-and to tell him that. "Thanks for taking out the trash honey, it really helped me out". And to always tell him I love him, even when I'm mad. And when he does the same for me, I know it's coming from a place of love.
And it's not easy. I never wanted to be a homemaker-but I am now, and I do it for the love of my family. It helps when my husband comes home and tells me "thank you for having dinner ready for me-it smells great". And seriously? Knowing that he's as grateful for me as I am for him makes him so much sexier to me. (well, on top of what a great dad he is! And yes, I know how lucky I am-and I tell him all the time.)
That's it. Be grateful for each other, and let each other know that you are.
I think marriages can work out, and are worth it. Whereas sure, there is a 50% failure rate, that means there is an equally high rate where they succeed. I don't think they pay attention (in these rates) to the number of them where the two people got married after only a week or a month of knowing one another or dating. Nor do they count that many of them are from drunken escapades. Numerous factors aren't being accounted for, and I think that would change the views a bit on it if they were.
That picture does depict things well, sure, for some people.
Every marriage is different, whether the picture rings true or not would be up to you personally.
I think if you're going to make the commitment of marriage, it'd be a good thing to try and keep it, otherwise you're just wasting your time.
That picture is fantastic.
I feel like people encourage the extremes in marriage - either they show it as SOOOO good or completely bad and really, it's rarely one or the other. My parents got married after less than three months together and have been married thirty years. My husband and I have been married four years. In both our marriages there are ebbs and flows but for the most part, life stays steady at an even keel of loving one another and going about our lives.
I think people either get married expecting it to fulfill some part of themselves or to fix something that's wrong in their lives. Those aren't reasons to get married. Unless you can fully trust your partner and feel complete in and of yourself, you're going to struggle in your marriage.
It's not an easy thing, being attached to someone like that for the long term. But it's a beautiful thing when you can make it work.
50% of marriages in America fail. how is that a skewed statistic?
i agree that many times people have that fairy tale in mind and don't realize what it takes to make a relationship last. instead of talking marriage, per se, lets talk in terms of relationship because whether one is married or not, a relationship takes work.
but also, having known a couple people who needed to call it and let it go, there are those times when walking away is the only and best thing to do. namely and precisely when there is abuse involved, and when one party is not concerned in working for the relationship at all. One person can't fix a relationship alone.
having said that, my husband and i have been through many ups and downs and the only time I had a thought that things might be disintegrating was when he was apathetic and unconcerned with working towards any kind of solution. Once we both decided to fight through the situation, we were on the same side again: us against whatever the world throws at us. and THAT is how a relationship can last - if the two people can always remember they are on the same side.
:) that's my 2 cents.
@Loonsounds@xanga - Well said.
Also, this picture is funny (not comical, but interesting) to me, because I see so many women in the same situation. If your husband is an equal partner and respects you and the role of parenthood, by all means, crank out the babies like there's no tomorrow. But so many women I see with 4 kids under the age of 5, hanging all over the cart at Wal-mart, running around at their feet look exhausterd, overwhelmed and regretful. I've said this on another topic and I'll say it again: I really wish women would look past the cute, newborn phase and try to see the future of raising that many children. When you're too busy trying to get pregnant over an over again, and you're saddled toddlers of varying ages and varying personalities, it is indeed a nightmare. I'm not sure where this fantasy came from that having a baby on each hip and one holding onto each leg was cute, fun, or relaxing. Movies like "Cheaper by the Dozen" have a lot of people fooled.
Look, my maternal grandmother ws one of 13. My paternal grandfather was one of 18. Neither of them came from wealthy families. It's almost impossible to even "get by" when you have a family that big. Why put the unnecessary stress on yourself?
whether or not you get something similar to a fairytale depends on the reality you live in.
I'm in the group that questions davidmiya's logic... If one party has completely checked out and the other is still clinging, well...there's a "stalker" line that gets crossed somewhere in there. At some point it's just stupid to keep holding out hope of reconciling when the other person has moved on...you're only hindering yourself.
The fantasy that I take away from the photo is that so many hear the fairytale, "And they lived happily ever after." without taking into account that the everyday isn't going to be a big adventure. My generation watches too much TV. Movies and shows; fiction and "reality", that only contain the "juicy" parts. And they seem to forget that that is NOT an accurate portrayal of real life, which involves cleaning and cooking and long, boring days at work and paying bills and taking the dog for a walk more than once in the three-month timespan that Lifetime movie just covered.
I've been divorced. After three years, a house and dogs (thankfully, no children), my beloved hubby grew bored with our life. We went to work, came home, cooked, ate, watched a movie or tv show, fooled around and went to sleep just to do it all over again the next day. I was content. But? He didn't really know what he wanted out of life, even though he thought he did when I married him...and it turned out that he wanted drama that I hadn't signed up for. The string of women that he's dated before (hence that whole "irretrievably broken" bit) and since the split have been proof of that... One came to visit, completely ignored him the whole time and then dumped him for someone that was his (physical- I have no idea about personality) polar opposite. Another had some sob story about why she was loosing her housing, moved in with him a VERY short while after they began dating, proved to be utterly crazy and then camped outside of his door for 24 hours after he kicked her out. The current one is, publicly, into some sort of dominatrix thing. (...and I'm seriously questioning whether it's a good idea to try to maintain friendships with people whom are also friends with the ex. While it's morbidly entertaining...ehh...) You could make a freakin' movie out of it.
And that may sound like I'm trying to pin all the world's problems on cable, but I'm really not. We're the ones that need the reailty check; to remember that fairy tales are just that: stories that are not reflective of real life.
@LiberalArmyWife@xanga - You are right. It seems that it is pretty common that I would be out at the mall or walmart and you see some tired mom with 4-5 screaming young kids, and you wonder what were they thinking? Some people have the wealth, time, and dedication, but in some instances the guy is just plunked out on his but in front of the boob tube while the mom has a full time job and then some. I was intrigued by the above picture because I imagine it's an interesting artistic portrayal of reality.
@averyswife@xanga - Nicely put with the selfishness part.
It's not marriage that ruins people, people are already screwed up when they get in to the relationship and formilize it. The "married" title gets the stigma cause it becomes a clear example of how humans fail at simply being humans. But take a look at all your other relationships: friendships, your parents, children,people at work, strangers, etc etc. Are they all looking just as great?
I do find the photo humorous and in some sad instances, it is true.
The responses to this are wonderful!! It actually cheered me up to read them.