Saturday, 20 June 2009
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What Are The Best Methods For Disciplining A Child?
Sometimes disciplining children can be quite difficult for mothers. What are some effective methods you have used to discipline your children?
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I'm not a mom but I'm the default babysitter for all of the woman in my family so I've spent as much as weeks at a time babysitting. My disciplining I guess would be more along the lines of taking away privileges. TV, computer, and other things like that. But that's usually after they've been pretty bad or really defiant. I usually just have to talk to them and calm them down -keep them away from whatever is riling them up for a few minutes and they'll be okay.
I am not a mum or a parent but what I would do is either take away their privileges or ground them.
As for smacking I dont think so in this day and age, no matter how bad/naughty the child is.
More than anything else in the world I think it's important to discipline your children from a young age. By that I mean that you set boundaries and be consistent. Expect respect. With my children I am trying TRYING to draw my children in close to me and use soft words--everyone listens to correction better when they are being respected and spoken nicely to. We spend a lot of time talking things out especially when they are just learning our family rules. Later on when they know the rules and deliberately break them, we talk plus they have an age-appropriate punishment. My almost two-year old has to sit on a time-out rug mainly because he hates it. He would rather be up running around and he views having to sit there as punishment. My ten-year old daughter also like to be outside running around with her friends so if she disobeys that's one of the first things to go. I try to reinforce that greater priveledges come with obedience. But usually if you have laid the groundwork when they are very young you don't have to punish them very often when they get older.
Whether you choose to spank, use time-outs, or take away privledges, PLEASE be consistant. Nothing confuses a kid more than letting a behavior slide, then screaming at them for the same behavior later. Go in the direction you want to be - if you don't want your kid to do something or not do something, be consistant and nip it early.
Whatever you do, do not touch them.
We do time-outs and privilages being taken away.
Spanking is the way to go.
"don'ts" are easier than "do's"
Don't bribe them, don't belittle them, don't hit them, don't make empty threats, don't sit there and curse at them, etc.
@Traci_Ladd@xanga - I like your suggestions.
@phantasmas@xanga - I definitely agree with that.
Spankings. Loss of privileges. Times out.
My mom used loss of privileges and time-outs, but she was strict about privileges from the get-go, anyway. So losing your daily allotment of 30 minutes of TV was a BIG issue. Time-outs ranged from 5-15 minutes, and involved sitting in the garage on the bench contemplating your misdeeds.
My brothers occasionally got grounded, when they were older, usually for a weekend.
We were never, EVER spanked, and I'm very grateful.
Another one that works well with the children at school (I work in an elementary school) is counting backwards from 5. I guess you have to come up with some dire consequence should you ever hit 0, but it gets them sitted down and shutted up right quick! =)
Well. Just for the record, I feel like the "spankings" that I received as a child weren't very effective. They hurt and upset me, but I don't think they made me realize anything I did was wrong.
@B2yan_C@xanga - I agree. I wouldn't use spanking to discipline a child. Then they think it's okay to hit.
Isn't it just up to each parent and how kids actually respond? I am not a parent, I am still 17 but I can look from the kid angle I guess. I mostly get privileges taken away, which I usually dislike since I happen to like my Xbox, my iphone, and my computer. I have been grounded on occasion and spanked too and it all depends upon what it is I did. I don't know which is "best" from my dad's and stepmom's perspective. To be honest, I would rather get a spanking than most of the alternatives. It's over in a few minutes and I move on with my life, not just sitting around unable to do anything. And by the way, I am a totally peaceful person. I have never, ever hit someone else, I can't imagine doing so.
ignorance. it works on me all the time ; (
I like super nanny's timeout methods a lot i.e. the "naughty spot." This has worked well for me with many a difficult child and it comes from a place of calm love not anger. I think it's always important to stress to the kid that they have a choice whether to be good or bad and that the bad choices lead to discomfort and loss while the good choices lead to privileges and contentment. Too many parents make the punishment about themselves by screaming/yelling, blowing up, or stressing to the kid how much the kid is pissing them off. so then the kid looks at the parent and thinks that their disbehaving is the parent's problem and only bothering the parent. I completely agree with what Traci_ladd said about boundaries. I had to read a book called "Boundaries with kids" for a job I had working with kids and this book seriously helped me discipline in a loving way with all the kids I worked with from then on. I would seriously recommend it.Â
I also agree with what many people have said about spanking. Smacking a kid around is never ok. However, spanking a kid on the tush really does not hurt them. For young toddlers, it can be very effective. They're so padded with their diapers anyway that it doesn't hurt. It merely shocks them into paying attention. Anyone who has ever tried to REASON with a toddler understands that sometimes there is no reasoning with them. They don't quite have those reasoning skills in place yet. If they're running off into the street repeatedly and your "honey, if you run into the street you might get hit by a car and make mommy very very sad" does not work, as it probably won't, you might have to smack the kid on the butt and say a firm "NO!" Like I said, it doesn' t hurt too badly, it just shows you mean business. It's only effective so long as it maintains the shock factor. It can also be slightly effective for older children so long as it is still a painful punishment, i.e. something they truly want to avoid at all costs. I was spanked as a kid all the time (only on the butt) and I never feared it from my mom because it didn't hurt when she did it. But when I was due to receive a spanking from my dad...oh man! THEN I shaped up! The hours spent waiting for dad to get home and spank me were the worst. He never used the belt or anything like his dad did but the threat of his hand was enough to spark obedience in me! Like some other people said, all this butt spanking did not make me a violent person. Nor am I permanently scarred by it. I think I will spank my toddlers if need be, especially in the running-into-the-road situation. (again, doesn't hurt. Diapers in the way anyway). But I remember as I grew the spankings just became lame, and my dad was having to put forth some real effort to make them hurt. The last time he did it, I was about 11 and hadn't been spanked in a long time. When he spank me, it barely hurt, and I laughed in his face. He started laughing then too, and I was never spanked again.
Seriously I think some people blow the whole spanking thing way out of proportion.
i don't remember being disciplined as a child, and i don't remember my kid brother getting disciplined either. we listen to our parents, and know our rights and wrongs. if we're told not to do something, then we won't. in the case of my brother, i think he feels immensely guilty for doing something that would upset the parents. i'd say.. that for me, seeing parents disappointed was the worst kind of punishment.
my mom used to nag at me a lot but my parents barely yell.. only if they're really really frustrated.it really depends on the kids too. i guess my brother and i were obedient asian kids =) if parents says no once, we wouldn't do it again.
@jesusmoshes2@xanga - I agree! I have 2 younger brothers, and all 3 of us were spanked, and we're not violent or anything. I get so sick of people saying that's what causes kids to become murderers, school shooters, etc. Give me a break. My aunt has a 4 1/2 year old, and a 2 1/2 year old, and she spanks them both. One time I was babysitting them, and she had given me permission to spank the then 3-year old if I needed to. Well, he kept disobeying so I threatened to spank him, and he quit right then and there! Just goes to show that it does indeed work!
Spanking.
My dad spanked my brother and me only a few times. Why? Because we learned if we did that same bad thing again, it would freakin hurt. For example, my brother would always hit me, and one day my dad pulled him aside and spanked him. Do you think my brother has ever hit me again? Nope.
For older children, my mom used to take privileges away from us (well...more my brother) instead of grounding us from doing anything. She would take away video games, computer, phone, etc. and so he could still go out with friends, but when he got home he would have to do his chores before he got his things back.
I was spanked as a kid, my husband wasn't. Both of us turned out fine, but we have very different opinions of how to discipline the coming baby now, so it's been confusing. Personally, I believe spanking WHEN DONE PROPERLY is effective. I specify that because there's a difference between a spanking and beating your child. I've seen parents practically beat their child and call it a spanking - NOT THE SAME THING. When my brother and I were younger, it was over the knee, a few smart smacks, and you were done. No marks, no bruises, just a little sting that lasted a minute or two. It wasn't much, but it taught us a lesson. Once we were older, spankings stopped and we got the things like groundings and removal of privileges.
But since my husband doesn't agree with spankings since he wasn't raised with it, i've agreed that spankings won't be part of our discipline plan. It'll be time-outs, removal of privileges, and if they're acting out in public, warn them once and if they continue, leave. They'll learn very quickly that acting up results in them having to go home and be bored the rest of the day.
My sister uses a technique called "loving logic"
Baisically it highlights and shows the child when they do something wrong there is a consequence. For example;
If the child acts out in the store throwing a tantrum, when you get home say something like "You know I thought you were old enough to join me shopping, and helping me out, but now I see that you still are too young so the next time mommy goes to the store I will have to get a baby sitter. But see, that cost money that I don't have so I guess we are going to have to pay the baby sitter with one of your toys." then take that toy away for a specific amount of time.
Or if the kid is insistant on putting things in the cart instead of immediately putting it back on the shelf and having them whine over it. When you get to the check out line have all your stuff rung up and payed for then begin to put their stuff on the converor belt and tell the child "okay I got my stuff- do you have enough money to pay for your stuff? You don't? Well I guess you will have to get it next time (or maybe if you do such and such chore you can make enough money to pay for it next time)
Another book I found helpful is " Nonviolent Communication" I don't remember who it is by though.
Sttistically, boys are much more likely to be abused than girls, and many boys by the age of ten have suffered some kind of hitting from their parents (mom in particular). It is a hidden epidemic, and boys are expected to be able to handle it, to "toughen up". I am reading this book right now that is just blowing me away. Its called Real Boys by William Pollack PhD and it is facts compiled from studies of boys and what they really feel and experience underneath the mask of maculinity they learn to wear.
I say all of that to say, I don't have the answer to the discipline issue. I thought I did... (mainly taking away priviledges) but as I read this book (in my ever-ongoing desire to grow and learn as a parent) I realize that I also made some assumptions about boys that I shouldn't have...
We try in our home to show them the meaning of consequences, not punishment. And we have 6 "Family Values" that are treated as a pact within our family and are not to be broken. They are basic human values like respect and honesty and kind words... we have them posted on our family bulletin board in very simple terms right now, but soon we will be able to talk about their meaning in deeper ways too - how they relate to the world around them and not just at home. So I guess when things go awry, I usually try to refer back to those, "Now, C, what family value are you not following right now?" And ask questions. "How do you think you can make it right?" Most of the time, the kids will actually solve it in their own mind through talking it out with me, but this approach does take alot more time, and I'll be honest, sometimes I don't have that kind of time. They argue, and I snatch the toy away... wrong. But effective for that moment. Not long-term though. And I am trying to keep my mind on the long-term these days.
But as far as discipline, I think for each person it is so different... my oldest handles things differently than my middle one. And they each deserve an approach that meets them where they are at as people. So my husband and I are always discussing what is working, what is not, and sometimes we resort to the counting (you have three seconds to get over here! one! twoooo! ...) But we don't want to - it doesn't help anything to count like that.
@phantasmas@xanga - I "don't" agree. I think don't can make things very difficult because some people are then left with, "well, what DO I do then?" and this is where abuse can so easily come into play. verbal, emotional, as well as physical.
Lastly, this was bound to bring up alot of spanking comments, but spanking is wrong. Period. It is NOT mandated by the Bible (read: Biblical Parenting by Crystal Lutton) as commonly believed, and it is NOT our "duty" as parents. It is hitting. Plain and simple. I don't care how you "talk" to them about it first, how you set it up or finish the act. You can put all kinds of rules around "how to" murder someone to make it kinder, but in the end, its still murder. In the end, spanking is hitting. No child should ever be hit. Period.
@kipahni@xanga - i love this!
http://kidjacked.com/legal/spanking_law.asp
Parents/teachers/other persons can use ordinary force as a means of discipline, including but not limited to spanking, switching, or paddling. 21 § 844. [Criminal Code] Criminal penalty for using unreasonable force upon a child under 18. 10 § 7115. [Criminal Code]