Wednesday, 19 November 2008

  • Ignorance Makes Me Sick

    Mama Pig by Mama Pig

    Ignorance makes me sick

    I was born and raised in Texas. I am quite proud of my southern roots, but there are days I am almost ashamed to admit that some people were once members of my family. This is not a rant about all southerners, this is a rant about a select group that just spouts hate and makes the rest of us seem like ignorant rednecks.

    I had the great pleasure (sarcasm does not come across well in print, but that was sarcasm) to speak with my ex husband on Saturday. We have not had a reason to speak since prior to the election. I had gotten a few text message prior to election day that were quite offensive, but I said nothing. My thoughts are why have a battle or wits with an unarmed opponent. It just isn't that fun when they don't understand the subtext of your comments.

    So, I am on the phone with the ex and we are having a fairly serious discussion regarding our daughter. After we have wrapped up the conversation, he ends the call with the following statement; and this is a direct quote, almost; "Just remember, in two short months your president is going to be a "insert the "N" word here." I refuse to say the word, I refuse to type the word, we all know what word I am speaking about.

    I was speechless. What bothers me the most is that this is a man I was once married to. I share three children with this backwards-thinking individual. The most frightening thing of all; many members, if not all, of his family share the same sentiment. They are judging our future president solely on the color of the man's skin. Are we serious??

    People, we are in 2008. Our next president happens to have a shade of skin a bit darker than mine. So what??  Had my ex said he disagreed with his policies and therefore voted for the other guy; great, no problem. That was not the case, however. He didn't vote for the man simply because he did not like the color of his skin.

    What bothers me more than anything is, this is not isolated. You head anywhere to small towns in the South and you are going to find this type of ignorance. I fear that the children that live within that family are going to grow up with the same ignorance simply because that is all they know.

    Ignorance makes me sick and I want to go slap my ex husband. My son resides with his father; is he teaching the same hate filled message to him as well? I can only hope that my son has learned enough from me to know that the color of your skin is not what determines what kind of person you are. If we had only my ex to judge all caucasians by, we would be considered idiots.

    What are your thoughts? Have you heard of the race crimes happening around the country after Obama's win?

Comments (45)

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    The hate crimes are everywhere. There was an article of the two teenagers who would have killed 88 African Americans and then head up to go kill Barack Obama. It makes me sick as well that we still have people judging by the color of people's skin. I'm Chinese and I still have kids (and even adults) say "ching chong" to my face or do the slanty eye thing with their fingers. But you know, I just know that I will be better off than them in the long run. They are going to do it to the wrong crowd one day and find themselves in a whole heap of trouble. As for your kid, make sure that you have implanted more common sense into your child than him planting "ignorance and intolerance" in him. Eventually, when your child grows up, hopefully, he/she knows the quality of respect and if his father says such disrespectful things, he/she can stand up to him and shut him down. I had to do that a few times with my parents.

  • la_vida_linda@xanga

    My in laws are also racist bigots, they voted for McCain not because they agreed with him more, but because the other choice was a black guy.  I have endured snide remarks from them over the years because I am Hispanic, but I didn't realize they were holding back how they really felt.  I feel sorry for them honestly because they are missing out with that attitude.  And the worst part is they call themselves Christians...sad really.

  • Margaret_aka_mommy@xanga

    That is really sad that your kids have a father with such a big flaw. My dad is the BEST man I know, but his biggest flaw is that he is (or appears to be) racist. He is very educated and loving, but I know his racist comments come because of his family and the way he was raised. So I do lose respect for him when he says things about people's race.


    My parents didn't sit down and talk to me about not being racist, but it would have helped. The world we live in today is just progressive and it really is stupid to judge some one by the color of their skin.  I find all kinds of reasons to like/dislike people, but that is never one of them!

  • reflectionphoto@xanga

    I hate it when people seem to believe this only happens in the South.


    I'm white, my fiance is black, we live in a "small southern town" and to be honest, people here are more open to our relationship than the places that we've visited up north. People around here rarely pay attention to skin color. (FYI- I live in the middle of the Bible belt in Georgia)


    I'm not going to classify all northern towns as racist, but it's unfair to group all "small southern towns" in the same way.


    I'm not saying you meant it that way, so this isn't an anger response, but this is the phrasing I'm responding to "You head anywhere to small towns in the South and you are going to find this type of ignorance."

  • aznspartan94@xanga

    You also have to remember that people vote for Obama ONLY because he is black. 

  • quiltnmomi@xanga
  • pillowpixies@xanga

    Racism is everywhere, not just in the South. I live in Texas myself, and I've actually lived in two of its small towns. I can say that neither of those towns were racist.

    "What bothers me more than anything is, this is not isolated. You head
    anywhere to small towns in the South and you are going to find this
    type of ignorance."

    The above statement is off entirely. Not every small town has racism. And you saying that, specifically, this happens in Texas is making Texas look even worse. One person saying they hate racism, while pointing out that "entire small towns of people" are racist, doesn't make anything look better.

    Plus, I highly doubt you've been to every single small town in Texas; therefore you can't say that statement and actually know for sure to begin with.

  • CodeEnscripted@xanga

    @pillowpixies@xanga - i don't think she's saying the entire small towns are racist, just that there are people within them that are.
    I don't think you really need to go to every town in order to be able to say there's at least one or two racist people there.   Seems pretty likely.

  • pillowpixies@xanga

    @CodeEnscripted@xanga - Yeah, there's at least a few everywhere. But I think her coming down specifically on groups of racists in the South is, for lack of better words, silly. I assume that the South is all she knows, and that she can't say 'for certain' whether the North is like that also, but I think there's more of a problem with the country-wide racism than with the Southern racism alone. Though you do make a good point.

  • TakingxOverxMe@xanga
  • mitztaken1@xanga

    I live in Texas in a small town and while we certainly have ignorant white trash racists here I don't feel it is the majority where I live. We've been in the news a lot lately as if we're all a bunch of redneck card carrying KKK members though because a young black guy was killed by two white guys in town. They were all friends. It wasn't a hate crime. (One of the white boys had killed a white friend before...why he wasn't still in jail I'm not sure) But anyway....the New Black Panthers have gotten involved and a few of the black activists around town and what I've observed on the local topix website, the rallies and talking to people is that the black people here are way more racist than the white. It's all very sad that they are trying to turn it into something that it simply was not. Sorry, didn't mean to go out on a rant there.


    And while I don't think anyone should NOT vote for a worthy candidate because of his skin color, I also have a problem with people that DID vote for him simply based on his skin color. That happened a lot as evidenced by people being questioned about his policies, views etc coming out of the polls, a lot of them had no clue as to the issues...so how did they know he was the candidate they needed to vote for? Anyone who actually voted and was not informed on the issues and candidates....Shame on you, no matter who you voted for.

  • mrsmarkwith@xanga

    sadly though, the ignorance is coming from everywhere. My friend was standing in line at a shopette (gas station) on the local army base, yesterday, waiting to pay for her gas. And a black lady walks in and cuts in front of everyone in line and the cashier said "excuse me. do you not see all of these people? you need to go to the back of the line" and she had the audacity to say, in a loud and rude manner, "NO We run this now". Needless to say, everyone's jaw dropped. I would have been like "No the only place you are running is back to your car" lol... but that's just me. But it's not just coming from one side of things... the ignorance is coming from everywhere. And it's sad.

  • mamalove

    Does anyone other than me think it's weird that we are calling Obama an African American when he happens to be more Arab than African American? 


    If we arn't racist then why arn't we calling him the first Arab president?

  • DBF21@xanga

    It's awful. Racism is an unrepairable disease that's everywhere. I experienced it here in NY at a game with someone who said such irrational things about our future President, I had to just bite my tongue and nod.

    I don't know how it ever ends. And the hate crimes happen. It happened out here where two idiot 18 year-old white teens beat up random blacks in an urban neighborhood out here and are facing as much as 15 yrs in jail. Dumbasses.

  • mileyfan08@xanga

    I'm pretty sure my idiot father voted against Obama because he was black. There is a reason I don't talk to that man. And I'm pretty sure his grandfather did the same thing and is saying the same things. I had to take the dog outside to run around at Christmas last year at my great-grandfather's house in freezing weather just to get away from hearing the n-word every two minutes... I choose to pretend I'm not related to those individuals.

  • OurPlaceOnTheWeb@xanga

    @aznspartan94@xanga - I am just looking to clarify your statement. You think those of us who voted for Obama only did so because he is black?

  • OurPlaceOnTheWeb@xanga

    I too am from a small southern town, South Louisiana to be more specific. Where I grew up, they were still putting KKK flyers in kids lockers. I nearly got into many fights over this b/c it was usually a classmate of mine stuffing them into lockers. Inevitably he would get to mine and it would be a war of words in the hallway, until a teacher came out to see what was going on. (I am only 29, so we aren't talking that long ago.)


    Currently I live in a small town in North Carolina.


    I think there is racism everywhere, small towns, big towns, north, south, east, west and everywhere in between. I can completely understand the feeling of disappointment over family members (in-laws, ex-in-laws, etc.) and their views and harsh words. I have walked that same path with people who were once close to me.


    Here's what I think, being from a teeny little speck on the map in the south: We can no longer blame racism on location (whatever it is), we have to call it by its real name, ignorance. Once you become an adult, we'll say early 20's, you cannot blame your behavior on any thing or any one other than yourself. Because that age, you have a choice now on how you think... if you don't like your own behavior, change it. When you are a kid you react the way your parents do, typically, you are a product of your environment.


    With that said, those who behave that way, I don't blame their location or their families. If they are adults, there is no one to blame but the person behaving to ignorantly.


    Hope that made sense. Great post.

  • merquryd@xanga

    I am from a small town in North Carolina.  I currently attend Syracuse University.  I have lived in NYC for a summer, and visit a few times a year because my boyfriend is from Brooklyn.

    It doesn't matter where you are in the country, you will experience racism.  I do not care where you are from....there is racism going on.  And not only racism, but classism and sexism, too.   It's just in my own experience, people are more vocal in the south....but believe me, a lot of my friends up here, myself included, have experienced some things that would take you aback. 

    This country was founded on race.  This country was built by slaves, built on the notion that one body of people were justified in their mistreatment of another group because their lighter skin somehow made them the superior human.  Racism (and equally as bad, classism) is present in our laws and in our schools.  Look at the population of darker skinned people in jail....look at the laws for crack possession...then look at the percentages of people who actually use the stuff.  Look at our schools.  The low-income schools are systematically given less, and the kids poor performance are blamed on the fact that "they don't want to learn" or "their parents aren't involved".  Well, if you didn't lower your expectations of them or had some pre-conceived stereotype that  once you are in a lower income bracket you suddenly become "lazy" or "indifferent", you might see that one particular child has just as much potential as any.

    I'm sorry about my rant.  But it's hard to eradicate an institution such as racism when one's country is BUILT on it, it's capitalist culture supports it, and the laws reinforce it. 

    We are progressing, and it's not even the many ignorant individuals that are holding much of the progression back, some people just have hate in them for whatever reason.  It's the racism, classism, sexism, and homophobia that's allowed to infiltrate our laws.  Our leaders show these same qualities, and when their voting bills into laws, fail to protect the rights of ALL Americans.

    ::steps down off of soap box::

  • mamapig

    @reflectionphoto@xanga - You know, you are correct. I really did not mean to imply such a thing because I know that it occurs everywhere. Having been raised in a small southern town, I really did not want to imply that they were all filled with racist people.


    For the purposes of my story, I was using the location that I was most familiar. I have never been up north so I was going off my own experiences. Sorry, my intentions were not to offend anyone.

  • mamapig

    @pillowpixies@xanga - Actually, I don't believe I ever addressed Texas except to say that I was born there. In fact, my ex lives in another state entirely. Also, could you please point out in the story where I said "entire small towns are racists".


    You are entirely correct. I can only write about things I have personal knowledge about. I stand by my statement that racism is alive and well in the South. As for the north, I have a good idea that there is racism up there as well, but having never been there, I can not say with any certainty. I write about my life and experiences.  I welcome you to do the same and I can promise I will not condemn you for your thoughts and opinions.

  • maniac_rose@xanga

    I live in a small Kentucky town and I know what you mean. There are people here who wouldn't vote for him because he's black. There are people who voted for him just because he's black. There are also people who know nothing about him, but voted for him just because he's a democrat. I think most of my family fell into that last category. We're all a bunch of Bush haters. I hate racism, but I don't think it's something that will ever go away. That is because ignorant racist pass their crap down to their kids. There is always hope though. Kids usually know when their parents are crazy and rebel against it. Sometimes.

  • McCoy_Mama@xanga

    I agree with the others that say racism is everywhere.  :(  My pet peeve is that it is portrayed to be most prominent in the South.  I was born in TX but only lived there for my first year of life and ever since have been in Mississippi.  In my 26 years of life, I have never witnessed any kind of racial discrimination, yet movies make it out like MS is the most racist place to ever be.  My dad uses the 'N' word (I'm like you...I don't even type it), but he never taught me racism.  I think the whole city of LA with the gangs fighting eachother, has more racism than the whole state of MS.  :(  Racism just seems petty to me.
    I graduated from a small high school (about 84 of us in the graduating class) and the African American population was about 10%.  None of us ever seperated black from white.  We were all friends and/or acquaintances.  You look in the cafeteria and you didn't see a table where just black kids sat at, you saw them scattered around.  Now, they were seperated into cliques like football players, basketball players, cheerleaders, band members, slackers, nerds, etc.  But we weren't seperated by color of skin. 
    I was teary eyed the day of the election as I saw Obama getting more and more votes.  I felt like FINALLY this world was getting over the color of a person's skin!  But needless to say I was disappointed in the state of MS for voting Republican.  I felt that if we could just vote Democrat then we could once and for all show that we aren't racist, we don't do lynchings, we don't have problems like that. 
    Thanks for your post....it is nice to see another Southerner that feels like this issue is beyond OLD!

  • ZombieMom_Speaks@xanga

    I have and it makes me sad, particularly the story about the KKK plot to kill a hundred people, then assassinate Obama a week before the election. Nothing like giving the man a chance, right? And what about the innocent people in their path?

    Hate makes people so heartless and stupid.

  • LadyAsianInvasion@xanga

    i am so sorry that you ex husband has that mentality.  it's not the greatest thing to hear.  from anyone.  my father has a similar personality, except he get's along with black people if he meets one, but seems to talk behind their back.  i don't know what's going on in my dad's head.  he said since obama is black, he's bound to mess up.  irritating.  however despite being raised by him and my mother (who isn't like my fathe thank GOD), i was lucky enough to grow without the brainwashing of my dad.  i guess it's a form of defiant..or that i opened my eyes, and see the error of his ways. so just teach your children your beliefs and hope they see what you see.

  • FUNKIEFAIRY@xanga

    @McCoy_Mama@xanga - AMEN! I too and from Mississippi, and am happy about the outcome of the election. I guess we all kinda knew that Mississippi would vote republican. My husband and I were so excited to see the votes for Obama on election night. I got chills and happy tears at his acceptance speach. It was an awesome night.


    I believe that the removal of racisim will take more than the voting in of a president. It will take all of us standing up to racist people. Telling them that we will not accept their remarks, jokes, behaviors, or actions. It will take all of us to no longer bite our tounges, leave family gatherings, or to sit quietly and delete racist jokes from our emails and text messages. I do not tollerate racist remarks to be said around me. I do not use the  "N-word" and I tell other people off for using it. I know many people from many walks of life, and like another person here said, there are many other reasons you can find not to like a person. To not like a person because of the color of their skin is the same as not liking a person because they have red hair or green eyes. If you were to go around not liking a person because of their features, people would think you were insane.


    This is an issue that makes people very angry, very easily, but it should not even be an issue. We are all here, like it or not. Why can't we all just get along?


    Thank you for letting me speak my peice.

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