Monday, 29 September 2008

  • Text Messaging: A New Medium for Cyber Bullies

    Mama Pigby Mama Pig

    cyberbullyI am sure everyone heard about the young girl that committed suicide about a year ago after the "boy" she was chatting with online dumped her. Tragically, there was no boy, it was the mother of another young girl. It was at that time the term "cyber bully" became a mainstream word.

    Having teenagers, I have witnessed the cyber bullying process first hand. I find it amazing at times that these innocent looking girls can say such vile things to one another when they are protected by a screen. Piglet2's friends have had their myspace accounts hacked into as well as having them deleted completely. On more than one occasion Piglet2 has had hers deleted by an angry friend. It isn't just the computer these days, however.

    Text messaging is another way to be mean without having to face your victim. Just last year Piglet2 was home from school sick one day. On our way home from the doctor she received about twenty messages from her "best friends" calling her the most vile names I have ever heard. It didn't stop until I called the school and informed them of the messages being sent during school hours. That all started over some boy that Piglet2 and another girl liked. Now do not get me wrong, I am sure that Piglet2 gives as well as she receives when I am not present, but I make it a point to monitor her myspace as well as perusing her text messages from time to time.

    I can remember growing up having verbal fights with my friends, but never to the extent that it happens today. Just the other day another of Piglet2's friends had her myspace hacked and pornographic pictures were posted there. The young girls mother happened to check the myspace and was quite upset. This left the young girl having to explain what had happened and the other girl's mother being called. I can never remember my mother having to get involved with a dispute between a friend and myself. Today it seems to be a necessity.

    I have touched mainly on the girls simply because Piglet3 does not have a myspace. He would rather surf the web than chat, but I am sure this is not a gender specific phenomenon.

    Have any of your children ever been involved in a "cyber bully" situation? How would you handle it if you found out that your child was the victim of cyber bullying, whether it was on the Internet or via text messaging? Would you get involved, or would you let your child work things out?

Comments (23)

  • Just_call_me_the_underdog@xanga

    Momaroo, you write so many entries per day it's getting hard for me to keep up.

    That said, I'm a guy who has found some good friends over the internet - I never really did well at finding decent people at my own school by searching around or looking by having to recognize one person at a time. Online was best for me.

    However, I've been careful whom I give out my personal information to. My blog is one thing but I don't even give my number to those whom I deem unworthy of my trust, or lacking the maturity.

    You said your daughter must give as much as she receives - well, birds of a feather flock together. Not to insult your daughter but I'm saying if she and her friends are on the same maturity level, they will fight with the same maturity level and handle their differences the same. Are they really her friends if they talk to her like that when she's absent?

  • filtered_sunlight@xanga

    I think we've pretty much all noticed everyone's tempers getting more heated in recent years. Text messaging and MySpace (along with Facebook, Tagged, Xanga and every other website out there that let's you communicate with others) is really just incidental.

    When Megan gets to that point, I intend on keeping an eye on her pages because I have known teenagers to lie about their ages and post pictures that are not appropriate, as well as give out too much information. As far as things her peers are saying to her, I think she needs to learn how to deal with it on her own. If something is really bothering her or someone is physically threatening her, I hope that she'll come to me, but I don't think I need to be in the middle of two girls' petty name calling spat...they need to learn to draw the line somewhere and move on without someone's mommy playing referee constantly before they get into the real world and mommy isn't there to nip their battles in the bud.

  • ApplexXxAxXxDay@xanga

    My parents didnt let me get a myspace when I was in my early teens. I have a facebook now, but my dad has acess to it also. I think its really sad what kids are doing these days, a screen gives them so much confidence. I never fell victum to cyber bullying. I think it was because I had a good sence of people to stay away from. Not like I didnt still have fights with my friends, but we never really did it by sabatoging eachother.


    Maybe you should have a talk with your daughter about getting some new friends.

  • mamapig

    @filtered_sunlight@xanga - I agree with you about letting them handle their own battles, to an extent. When I phoned the school it was only after I texted to let them know I was reading the messages and to please stop. For the most part, I remain a silent means of support, but there are times when it is taken too far and parents are forced to step in.


    BTW, these were VILE names. Had it simply been "hey you are such a bitch" I wouldn't have uttered a word. Think of the worst things you could say as a person and multiply by 5.


    @ApplexXxAxXxDay@xanga - Trust me, she has learned a difficult lesson. We were in the midst of moving when this all began, so I am thankful that she has moved on to another school and what I hope are more mature friends.

  • mamapig

    @Just_call_me_the_underdog@xanga - BTW, I am only one of many that write under the momaroo tag. If I wrote all these myself I would have no time to be dealing with cyber bullies. LOL

  • trulytaken@xanga

    Texting is something I simply don't understand. I have text on my phone and since I mentor several of the teens in my church I get and send text messages from time to time. But it's terribly tedious! I know these kids are way faster at it than me but to me it's like going back to sending smoke signals. Text it cryptic and meticulously impersonal. But what do I know... I'm a thirty year old mother of 5 kids under 10!!

    So I really don't think this is a "text" issue. I think kids, for the most part, are just mean. They say things right to each others faces that are just plain hateful! Those of us from Generation X (and before) tend to think we are so mature but our kids are spoiled, rich kids! I would have fallen over dead if my dad gave me my own computer or cell phone when I was a teenager!! Now pretty much every American kid thinks this is standard equipment! The 'entitlement phenomenon' is sweeping this country... And I don't know what it will take to shake it up a bit. I guess we'll see...

  • EaTxYoUxALivE@xanga

    children can be so cruel. but they have to get it from somewhere...

  • anonymous

    I think its sad how "big" people get online. It not only happens with children, but adults as well. Its easy to talk a big game online. Its sad, it really is.

  • bassangel@xanga

    @trulytaken@xanga - The current recession should do a good job of ending it.

    I remember when I was in middle school (almost a decade ago!) that I was in the computer lab after school talking in a chat room. I was in one that was supposed to be Young Adult and after telling another chatter that I was hanging out after school they asked me what I was wearing. I replied a chicken suit. And then I ignored him or her.

    I had enough bullying in real life that I didn't matter if I came across some bad eggs online. I just ignored them and went on my way. I don't think a lot of kids know how to do that.

  • PoetMcChick@xanga

    I had a girl write blogs about me using my first, middle, and last names, and writing me messages and getting her friends (as well as herself) to harrass me by text. I had changed my number 3 times and she kept obtaining the new number. Finally, after the third time I had someone tell her when I change my numbers, I'm giving her a free pass, but that she will get no more. It took a few months, but the calls and texts started up again. I went to the cops, and a few months later, she had a sentencing where she cannot contact me for six months. She wrote yet ANOTHER blog about me and the legal system...I printed it and took it to the cops. I don't know what happened with that, but they had said there could be a possibility of her punishment being revoked and she'd have to spend some time in jail.

  • lilwetduckie

    I wouldn't know about this from my kid. My son is only 21-months-old and likes to get on the computer, haha, but doesn't know how to work it yet. Lol. My sister is 17 though, and has a Myspace and gets text messages -- and I haven't heard her getting bullied yet. I think she may be a little on the older side though. Man, I have a Myspace and I get people adding me on there that I went to high school with and then they see a photo of me in a bathing suit (oh heaven forbid I am married with a kid and have a bathing suit photo up there) and this girl I thought I knew from high school was basically cussing me out 'cause I had a "half-naked" photo of me up. I think that is probably about as close to that as I'll get. I know the dangers of the internet and keep a pretty good eye about what I say. It is mainly to chat up with friends though -- since I am 22 (about to be 23 O.o) most of my friends are away at college so I have to keep in touch with them somehow. =)


    People need to watch how they raise their kids. Man whatever happened to the saying, "Treat people the way YOU want to be treated."

  • choosenservant@xanga

    We had a family member who's daugher was in highschool. One year she was elected to the queen's homecoming court. She of course was delighted. She found out after the vote but before the homecoming event that she had been elected as a joke. They didn't really mean for her to accept and participate. It was found out after the fact that at the homecoming a group of them was going to stand up and make a ruckus.  Although she 'blew' it off, at home the difference was seen. She was not talkative, withdrew into her room, her grades suffered. She was a 3.75 student and that marking quarter almost failed some of her classes. The parent decided to contact the school and was informed at that time that they had become aware of the situation and there was staff sitting among the group of 'protesters' . Had they made a move, they would have been yanked and suspended. One of the teachers that the student respected became her confidant. The school praised the parent for caring and being aware of the what was happening in the student's life. She did the right thing. I am not sure what this may do down the line, but she seems to be ok now. I believe she has grown in maturity as well as her self image. There is a time and place for parents involvement. A young person needs to be allowed to work it out, but there is a point where it is too much and they need an advocate. Even the Bible tells us that Each of us faces temptations and struggles. But God is faithful to provide a way to bear up under them so we are not crushed. 1st Corinthians 10:13 Bottom line, know you child, know their limits, know their heart.

  • la_vida_linda@xanga

    I am so glad I don't have a daughter and that my boys are waaay to young to go on the internet yet :)  I hope that your daughter gets free of those bullies and that she doesn't become like them.  

  • TwoCor517@xanga

    Personally, what I have seen on other family member's MySpaces, etc is appalling!   The names they call each other these days - joking or not is downright terrible!  And they all think it's so funny - I think it's disgusting!  If I had teenage daughters nowadays, I would be keeping a close check on their accounts, that is for sure.

  • asrial86@xanga

    To be extremely blunt, everyone has balls on the internet.  You can tell how nice a person is by how they treat someone who can do nothing for them. 

    Some sick people just get a kick out of pissing other people off.  Assholes.

  • vickevlar@xanga

    geez what is wrong with people?  I was never bullied when I was a kid, and I never fought with my friends like that.  Sounds like a case of people's traits and actions being exaggerated by the internet.  My suggestion:  find new friends.  Also, that picture is amazing and hilarious. 

  • Cliffycliffz@xanga
  • emilyd_foster@xanga

    I have been the subject of cyber bullying.  I had some rough times at school and my "friends" didn't like that I was seeing a guy so they decided to exile me and spread lies about me.  Then about 10-15 people in my school got my IM screen name and decided to say bad things to me so I had to change all of my screen names and emails.  It was horrible.

  • phuck_diz_shiz@xanga

    Its easier to face them over the internet vs. real life
    Sometimes in real life maybe the Bully is BIGGER/ STRONGER than you
    & if you stood up against them -- you'll end up getting an black eye or worse end up in the hospital / jail
    Then your parents would have to know whats up and deal with that

    Being on the internet, your friends can team up with you to defeat the bully - or.... vice versa

    If you really cant stand them and they cant shut up - all you have to do is NOT GO ONLINE / BLOCK THEM OFF UR MSN + DELETE EM

    But I know its hard to do that... cause words hurts more
    It's so addicting just to see what the other person has to say
    Yet you know you're going to get hurt if you saw their nasty messages

  • lookoutsunshine@xanga

    Yeah, it's really common. And really lame.
    There's been Facebook groups made about people.
    And not to mention what you can say anonymously in Honesty Boxes and other things.
    It's almost worse online, so many other people can see it. and people you've never seen can join in, just because their buddy started it.

  • kolten@xanga

    Nice post...  I personally think that if you get cyber bullied it's kind of your own fault.  Not saying that the people who get cyber bullied deserve it, but they are online talking to people who they seemingly don't like.  And as far as text bullying goes, it's easy to avoid if you're careful about who you give your phone number to make don't post it anywhere on MySpace.  Kids are way to sensitive these days, I know how hard it is; but like if you care that much about what people think about you, especially people that you don't like, you have a greater problem than just being cyber bullied.  I think if you're being cyber bullied you just need to delete people who aren't your friends off of your friend list on MySpace and set your profile to private.  And if you're getting bullied over text messages, you should definitely consider changing your phone number.

  • elittlebear@xanga

    It's a society problem, people are getting more and more self center, and self fish.

    Before the 'internet age', bully often happen. Then at 'internet age', bully become so convenient, and thus happen more often.

  • loveable_lush@xanga
    nuh-uh

    WOW. I can not believe what I read on your blog. It started out fine.. and then as soon as I read, "Now do not get me wrong, I am sure that Piglet2 gives as well as she receives when I am not present, but I make it a point to monitor her myspace as well as perusing her text messages from time to time," NOTHING else that you wrote mattered to me.


    I'm a teenager, I'm a freshmen in college right now.. and I've witnessed the Myspace and online and texting bullying, and have been a victim quite a few times. However, my mom raised me to be a better and bigger person and ignore it.. YES, it bothered me, I was in tears a few times.. I let the girls know that their bullying was unappriciated, face to face, and I stood up for myself in person, I was a bigger person than them.


    But I didn't "give as well as I was recieving" .. not EVER. That's not excusable.. my mom never monitored my online use, EVER, and she never needed to.She raised me to be a mature, responsible person. That's what I HATE about parents.. monitor this, monitor that, censor this and that.. but that doesn't change anything.


    If your kid is still participating in the bullying, when you're not constantly monitoring her, then how are you helping? You're just adding to those kids that you're complaining about in the first place.

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