Thursday, 25 September 2008

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  • TornadoChaser

    I've used time outs from time to time just to stop the action, separate the kids and get my thoughts collected. But for a main discipline, no I use it or think it works. Isolating and withdrawing from a child that really just needs some love and help wouldn't do much good would it?

    I do "time in"s, which is pretty much the opposite. We gather on the couch to calm down, talk about what happened and see if they can come up with a solution. A lot of times, whatever they are doing is just crying out for attention. I notice that when I'm being distracted with something else they are more likely to basically explode.  I couldn't imagine completely cutting them off from the family and from love just because they broke a rule. What does that teach? Don't get caught next time? She doesn't really love me?

    Time outs do have their place but don't abuse it. Maybe having a "cooling off" corner, where they can go either by suggestion or on their own when things are getting out of hand just to regroup their feelings. But it hurts my heart to think of kids being told "Bad! Now go sit over there, no playing no noise until I decide it's time for you to get up." I feel there's better ways of handling disciple issues.

  • sugartomyhoney@xanga

    First to the person above, time out does not mean you are withdrawing love!  Discipline and yes sometimes punishment is needed, but it NEVER means you are withdrawing love from your child. 

    I have used a time out so to speak (standing in the corner).  But I think it really depends on the child and what that child is doing.  Different methods for different children and different situations.  But no matter what you use, the child has to know what the consequence for their actions (or inactions) are ahead of time.

  • HawaiianHeldts@xanga

    I have those exact rugs!  I think time out or a cooling off corner is excellent. Honestly I wish someone would send me to the rug to think about what I am feeling and to come up with a better solution for my behavior sometimes, I think when it's used as a time to stop the behavior and to communicate with your child what it is you are seeing about their behavior that isn't positive or constructive it can work well. Kids shouldn't be ignored or left there for a long time. It should be used with kindness and firmness and for instructing.

  • christygraves@xanga

    I think everyone's idea of a "time-out" is a little different.  My parents always sent us to our rooms when we were fighting.  It wasn't called a time-out, but that's essentially what it was.


    Overall, I think time-outs are good.  I don't think they're usually used to isolate a child or kick him out of the family for a while.  They're just a way to get everyone to calm down.  (BTW- my husband hates "time-outs" mostly because he hates that phrase.  If I call it something different he's okay with it.)

  • TashaDW_18@xanga

    I use time-out.  I have my son sit in a specific chair for 3 minutes (he's 3 years old).  If he refuses to sit down we add another minute.  And then after his time is up we sit down and have a chat about why he had to sit out.  It seems to work for the most part.  It keeps me more calm, I think, which is good.

  • LadyLibellule@xanga

    I don't have kids, but my mom used to use time-outs when I was a kid.  It was worse than being sent to my room because there was nothing to do, no toys, no books...  We had to sit on the stairs for 10 minutes or something.  It felt like an eternity.

  • bentbrokenandtorn@xanga

    our version of time out is that if he is acting up, i tell him that he needs to take a deep breath and calm down. if he is able to do this, we sit down together and discuss why he was misbehaving. if he can't calm himself down, i tell him, "we can't allow our emotions to control us." and tell him that i think he needs some time alone to cool off and get back in control.


    he usually cries, but goes willingly to his room and sits on his bed with the door open until he is ready to come out (this is a freewill time out). when he comes out i always give him a hug and tell him that i love him. i ask him if he feels better, and he says yes and asks if he can play now. after that, he seems to react more calmly to frustrations.


    for the times when he is being rebellious, i make him go to his room for three minutes (he turned 3 in May) and sit on his bed with the door open. he is usually crying and screaming. after the 3 minute mark, i go into his room and sit on his bed with him and ask him if he is ready to talk calmly to me. if he is, we resolve it then and there and he is allowed to resume his regular activity. if he says no, i tell him that he can come out when he is calm and leave the room.


    i always stay nearby so i can hear him so that i can decide if the timeout is being effective or counter-effective. whenever i have noticed the latter, i have immediately gone to him, given him a huge hug and wispered reassuring things to him until he is calm and then ask him "what happened?" and we talk about it.


    in all cases i make sure he knows WHY he is being disciplined, and that I STILL LOVE HIM! i'll tell him, "i don't like the way you acted, but i will always love you."


    that method usually works for me, but with kids, you can't have a panacea type of discipline. you have to be willing to go with the flow and invent new ways to teach children boundaries.


    you also have to discern if they are acting out for attention. if that is the case, most kids will settle even for negative attention. the best way i have found to handle that is to tell him that him acting out doesn't make me want to be around him and that if he wants my attention, all he has to do is ask. if i tell him i am busy at the moment, i make sure to make one minute of time for him in between every 3-5 minutes of busy-ness if i can.


    most of the time it is pretty simple to take 60 seconds away from paying bills or cleaning house or whatever to acknowledge his presence and blow him a kiss or sing a song with him or something to let him know i haven't forgotten about him. if i am on the phone on an important call, i will make silly faces at him whenever there is a break in the conversation. kids just need to be constantly reassured of your love.


    best of luck with your little ones,
    Jennifer


  • Zvanoizu@xanga

    I never had to use time out with my daughters. They simply had to sit on their bed for a few minutes until they explained to me what was up. It was rarely used. I've had to use it with children at church but I've noticed that a lot of times the little ones just think it's a game. You really have to monitor them so they don't sneak off the chair or rug. LOL. I think that a lot of times time out is better for the parent or teacher... it gives them a chance to breathe while the child sits still for a bit.

  • JandJinJapan@xanga

    "Time out" is really only effective if there's a stick behind it.  Dad used to ground and restrict my brother and me when we were growing up, but those were effective because we knew that Dad could punish more harshly...and that came from him having to use the rod (or, in my Dad's case, belt) of correction when were were younger.


    Time out only works if there is a stick behind it, and the young ones know that there is much worse waiting if they continue to disobey...

  • mamabutterfly

    We rarely use time outs - only when R is hyper and just needs to sit quietly for a few minutes, in which case he has to go to his room by himself for a little while to calm down. We prefer other methods of discipline.

  • filtered_sunlight@xanga

    I found it to be very effective when babysitting my cousin's two hellions. However, I did have to be firm in what was expected of them while they were in time-out; i.e. you are to stay there until the timer goes off, no playing, no kicking the wall, no noise...and be consistant and completely stoic when placing them back in their chairs if they did move. (If they sense they're getting a rise out of you, they will continue to press your buttons for the attention...that's something I'm still trying to teach my mother, their primary caretaker.) Keeping the time as short as possible (one minute for each year seems to be a good rule of thumb/whatever one goes by) and then talking to them about what went wrong when all parties involved had a few minutes to collect themselves. If they didn't know what went wrong, I'd ask, "Do you think maybe you just wanted some attention?" The younger brother was good for shrugging and the older brother would sometimes say yes, or shrug, too. "Then what would have been a better way to go about it? Maybe politely asking if we had time to play X-board game? Or asking us nicely to come color with you?" They did grasp the concept and still listen better when I'm around than when I'm not, the problem (and the reason why I avoid them like the plague most days) is that my mom and my cousin are not consistant with them and they continue to basically do as they please when my mom or cousin are around because they know they can and mom won't do anything about it. It gives me a migraine to be around them and mom at the same time. I plan on using it with Megan when the situation calls for it.


    However, different things work better for different people and their kids and I don't think that 'time out' is the only way to manage your child or children. I also know that you don't have to put the fear of abuse into them in order for time outs to work, you merely have to be consistant and let them know that if they get up, they're going straight back and the timer will start over again.

  • orchestra3241@xanga

    my parents used it with me and i'm fine...i'll probably use it with my kids...then again, my parents also spanked me (then made me sit...which i distincltly recall HURTING A LOT).

  • XbabyK@xanga

    Time out followed by discussion most the times but some times, a swat on the butt is what it takes, especially when out in public.  Try sending your kid to time out in the middle of the grocery store.

  • scarlet_muse@xanga

    Time outs are effective as a way to calm down hyper kids who are getting out of control, but is not effective as a punishment generally speaking. 


    Call me old-fashioned, but I still think that the best type of punishment is a spanking. There is a BIG difference between a spanking and abuse. Abuse is done in anger when a parent loses control. What my parents always did was send me to another room to wait for my spanking. Then after a cool-down period, they would come in and give me a spanking and explain why they were doing it. You better believe that I shaped up. I never doubted for a moment that they loved me completely, and we are still very close to this day.
  • NotUeberMommy

    My son is only 17 months old, so I haven't had to use any of these methods. He's had the occasional temper tantrum, and I've just sat beside him until he had cried it out. That seemed to work.


    I think in the future, I'll use the "calm yourself down, then we can talk about what happened" kind of time out. I don't think spanking is a good idea - I just don't believe in corporal punishment, because it teaches the child that problems can be resolved with (a type of) violence. What kind of message is that to send to your child?


    I think in general, corporal punishment is just a way for the parent to let out their frustration, and to me, that's not ok. If the child gets frustrated, does it get to spank someone else? I don't think so...

  • anonymous

    I think it depends on the kids.  For some kids, a time out is an effective method of discipline.  For others, it doesn't phase them at all.  For example, my sister was very meek as a child, so looking at her the wrong way would make her cry and she's change her behavior.  For me, I was very rebellious and nothing short of getting a spanking would do anything for me.  If time-out works and are effective, that's great.  If it isn't working, try something else.  I think that as long as parents are firm and consistent in whatever method of discipline they use, it will (hopefully) be effective.


    I for one am willing to try the time-outs with my daughter when she's older.  But I am also willing to try other methods if I have to, including spanking.  And I completely disagree that it's a way for parents to let out their frustration or that it leads to violent kids.  I was spanked and I don't resent my parents or hate other people as a result...

  • cbprice24@xanga

    @JandJinJapan@xanga - Just because time out only worked that way for your family doesn't mean that would be the same for everyone. Lots of families (including mine growing up) use time-outs and/or other forms of discipline that don't involve hitting and that works perfectly well for them.

  • JandJinJapan@xanga

    cbprice24@xanga - My Mother never hit me, and my Dad did only once, and it was because I deserved it.  What they did do was punish, using the rod of correction as a spanking method when it was deserved.  Neither ever spanked my brother nor me in anger, nor publicly, and, yes, there is a HUGE difference between "hitting" and spanking.  If "time out" with no force behind it worked for you, great, but EVERY time I've encountered "time out" with no threat of corporal punishment behind it, the child has either been bratty, rebellious, or both.

  • vtwannabe

    I raised two boys one is now 25yrs old, the other is 14 yrs old. With the eldest my now ex-husband used the spanking method and lost control. Eventually leading towards the abuse when disciplining my eldest son. So by the time our second child was born I made it a definite rule in the home and outside of the home that the discipline method would be time outs and discussions. Timeouts for my second child were given in the same room where I was at he would be sat in a chair for a minute per year so if he were 3 years old he would be sat down for 3 minutes. If he didn't sit quietly I would add another minute or take away a video time for the afternoon. As he got older I would continue the timeouts, when he outgrew the time out chair discipline if he got 'out of control' or frustrated angry and unruly, I would send him to his room until he could calm himself down when he felt he was calm enough to talk with me about what had him feeling that way he could and would come down to speak with me. This is how he and I still handle those moments. Except, I no longer have to send him to his room.He goes willingly and doesn't  normally need more than 10-14 minutes of time alone to do so. Sometimes he just takes a short nap. But if he starts punching walls I immediately go up to his room have him sit on his bed and let him know how counter productive that is and how little that action is going to help the situation. We then discuss whatever is bothering him and he calms down with much better ease.
    When I ran a small daycare the timeout chair was the only discipline allowed by the licensing board and it was to be 1 minute per year of age of child. I believe in it.
      I do not believe in spanking. Because I do believe it only teaches a child fear, hurt, anger, resentment, and pain, not discipline. I also know, I have had to live many years regretting not being able to stop what happened to my eldest son at the hands of his dad. The belt, the paddle, the mighty hand. I have felt like a monster for not being able to stop that from having happened. And yes, in my childhood I received a spanking from my Dad once, and a slap open handed from my mother to my face once. I didn't turn out so bad.

  • JustAskBaby
    Hi!

    There is a lot of good scientific research that has been
    done into the benefits and dangers of time outs.

    “Time outs’’ seldom have the desired effects. Children
    rarely if ever use the time out to reflect on their misbehavior. Indeed they
    may even use the time to plot ways of getting away with the behavior without
    being caught. Put differently, the “time out” is a treatment of symptoms not
    causes. From Professor David Elkind’s Blog at http://www.justaskbaby.com/blogs/professor-elkind/time-out

    To quote the Professor “time outs are for parents, time ins
    are for children."

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