Wednesday, 24 September 2008

  • What If Your Stepchild Wants to Move Out?

    Mama Pigby Mama Pig

    stepmom Piglet3, Piglet4, and Piglet6 came home from visiting their mother Sunday night. As usual, Piglet3 and Piglet6 were happy to be home and slipped right back into a normal routine. They had only been gone since Friday, so it wasn't like they had any big adjustments to make. Piglet4 was, as always, another story. No matter if he visits his mother for 5 minutes or 5 days, he always comes home as though he were facing the death penalty.

    Hubby is usually not here when they first get home so he had not had the opportunity to witness the mood first hand until last night. I began to notice he kept disappearing into Piglet4's room and after the fourth trip I asked what was up. Piglet4 was quite upset and hubby was at a loss as to what to do. I have felt for quite some time that Piglet4 wanted to go stay with his mother, but know that she is not capable of taking on that task. 

    Hubby and I have no idea how to handle the situation. Piglet4 has expressed his dislike of our home and more than once has said he wishes to live with mommy. He has a somewhat distorted view of the reality of living with mom. She gets to be the fun parent on those rare occasions she picks them up. In our home there are rules and Piglet4 is not a fan of rules. We have a bedtime, homework must be completed, you respect others as well as their property and space. At mommy's it is a free for all.

    Piglet4's demeanor takes its toll on each of us. When he is upset, he upsets the entire house. The stress of the situation is at times taking a toll on my marriage. We are a blended family that for the most part has blended well, but I am at a total loss as to how to handle this situation.

    My fear as well as hubby's is that if he goes to live with mommy the situation will be so unstable that irreversible harm will be done. However, if he continues to live with us and express such misery, could irreversible harm be done to the rest of our family?

    Has anyone else gone through a similar experience with stepchildren? How did/would you handle a situation like this?

Comments (21)

  • Amyld@xanga

    From the child's perspective, it doesn't matter how horrible she is... she is still "mommy" - the #1 most important person to this child.   If he continues to live with you and feels this way, not only could it do harm to your family, it could cause irreversible harm to him.  It may not be the popular opinion, but I would let the child live with his mother.

  • alterEGGO@xanga

    I can understand this even though I am from a different angle. My second son comes back from his dad's and thinks he wants to live there. When he is at his dad's it is all about him. Everyone in that house cater to his each and every desire. Nothing is with held from him. EVER.
    So he thinks this is the way the world should be....all about him.

    I am sorry that any child should have to go through this sort of feeling but I know it happens.....I hope you and your husband can find some way to resolve this or help Piglet4 readjust easier.

  • tanyalp@xanga

    i can give the child's side. Because I left my house and went to go and live with my father... (problems with step dad)


    So I left my house and went to live at my fathers. While I was there I had to take care of myself in a much broader way. I had to find a ride back home from school, bothering other family members because my dad work through out the whole day getting home at around 4 ish and leaving at 6 to go teach his night class and he wouldnt get home unti I was asleep. This laster for about one month and a half. Ig ot fed up with it and had to move back in with my mom. And it did change a bit, not a lot, but I don't want to go and live with him anymore becuase I know that I'll always be alone and have to be taking care of him aswell.


    How old is he one?

  • filtered_sunlight@xanga

    I'm of the opinion of, "Let him try it out.", too. Either he really will like it and everyone will be happier and better off, or he'll come back with a new appreciation for what he has in your home. I would make it clear that if things aren't working, he's welcomed to come back but that he needs to figure out what he wants on a permanent basis -- that this is NOT going to turn into a, "Well, mom said no to x-thing, so I'm going to go live with dad this week because he'd let me." ping-pong situation.

  • ashleynmofford@xanga

    I have two stepsons, who in the beginning BOTH wanted to live with my husband and I..  Their mom, is HONESTLY not the nicest person. Shes the type that yells/screams/cusses at her kids, but at the same time, lets them basically do what they want, and run the neighborhood etc.. THe oldest, moved right in with us as soon as he was old enough to legally make that choice...About 3 years later, the youngest decided to move in. HOWEVER. He quickly learned that the lessons you learn will be painful, Not, physical, or screamed at you. And that he was expected to do homework, and expected to act respectful as a person. As well as SUPRISE!!! CHORES!!!


    Needless to say, The oldest still lives with us, and the youngest moved back in with his mom about 5 months after moving in with us.


    I dont know how old your children are, but, You know better than he does, im sure, of the seriousness of your opinion on her being unable to provide the right care. I would never stop my children from seeing their other parent, unless I truely felt it would be harmful. That being said, I think its important for him to know that hes allowed to live where he will be happiest...But that he CANT bounce back and forth every time he decides he doesnt like that he has to do a certain chore, or hes grounded for bad grades. Its a decision he needs to think about, and think hard. Depending on how YOUNG he is, Maybe hes able to make this decision?


    <3Ashley

  • reasmom@xanga

    When I was young, I did the same thing.  At my father's house there were rules and at my mother's there were NOT rules.  So, I went to live with my mom and had a blast - throwing parties every weekend, coming and going as I pleased - life seemed great UNTIL, I failed my first class EVER in school.

    After figuring out that party all the time had consequences that I didn't like I moved back to my dad's.  I think it took about 8 months.
    I would say try it out.
  • XbabyK@xanga

    I say let him try it out for a while, assuming this is okay with his mom.  I personally never wanted to live with my dad over my mom, not for any particular reason but I guess I was just fine with my living situation.  My brother did, at one point, go live with our dad and he did really well for the short time he was there.  After about a year he came back to live with our mom, not of his own choice, but that's how things worked out.  Looking back, he wishes he had been able to stay with our dad--I guess the individualized attention and the school he went to and all really worked well for him.

  • I_Am_Twilight@xanga

    I don't know how old Piglet4 is, but I think it's important to talk to his mother about it, and see her opinion on it as well, and talk to him.  If it's not a situation where he would be able to live with her, than maybe try and set it up so he can visit more often. 

  • StrawberryRose53@xanga

    I guess it depends on the child.  Neither one of my parents really had rules for me.  My Dad ignored me.  My Mother favored my siblings, as I look like my Father, and regardless of whether people are aware, you feel a difference and act upon it (perhaps this is what piglet is picking up on), yet I prefer my Mother, I think, simply because she is my Mother.  I don't understand, but it is the way I feel.  I am not close to either and would have probably faired better if placed with my grandparents, though I would have turned out even weirder than wild.  Hmm. 

  • elr6355@xanga

    I don't know helpful this information will be since I don't have kids and my parents are not divorced but I figured I had nothing to lose.

    He may want to live with his mom because he thinks he is going to get treated the same way he gets treated when he is with her for the occasional weekend.  He may think living with his mom is all fun and living with you means he has to follow rules.  He may think that if he lives with his mom everything will be fun all of the time and he won't have to follow rules.

    I agree with what the comment a few comments ago said about him having a trial period.  He may find that if he lives with his mom for a few weeks he changes his mind about wanting to live there.  If he finds that it isn't always fun all the time and he has to follow rules at his mom's too then he man not want to be there either.

    Like I said before, I haven't had any situation even close to this happen to me so I don't know how valid my comment is.

  • sugartomyhoney@xanga

    My son, who was the youngest, never really expressed to me that he wanted to go live with his dad, but I believe he did say something to his sisters.  They were older and were able to give him a reality check on how things would really be if he did.  The problem for me was, I knew if he asked his father would find a way to say no.  And then he would really be upset.  One time he was telling how much he missed his father.  His father was supposed to visit them twice a week for a couple of hours in the evening and every other weekend.  He only came for about an hour once a week and then did the every other weekend thing.  I told him I understood and maybe he should say something to his dad and ask him to come on another night.  (I thought he would say yes because he was a real stickler for following our contract).  He told him no.  He was busy every other night of the week.  My son was heart broken. 

    So, that being said, my advice is for your husband to talk to the mom first.  See if something could be worked out.  If she says no, then you would be sparing your son's feelings a little bit.  How old is he?  That makes a difference too, I think.  Also, another idea, if you have someone close to him, a pastor or sunday school teacher or an aunt or uncle, that he could talk to.  Express how he is feeling, and that person could explain to him why certain things are the way they are.  I'm saying another person who cares about him but is somewhat removed, so your son doesn't think you are just saying things because you "hate" his mom or something like that.  My son used to come home from his dad's and be just a bear for a couple of days.  I always just let him know that I wasn't going to tolerate disrespect, and he would reign himself in.

    Anyway, saying a prayer for you guys.  This is tough.  Your husband really needs to be handling most of this though.  Your son may be still hoping his mom and dad will get back together.  My kids did that for a very long time.  He may be angry because he knows that that isn't going to happen.  Divorce is so lousy for the kids!  No matter how everyone tries to make it all "OK", it's just not for them.  I was the product of a divorce and got a divorce myself so I know it from both sides.  It just plain sucks!  All you can do is the best you can do!
    Prayers
    Karen

  • mamapig

    For those that have asked; Piglet4 is 11 almost 12. Thank you for all the kind comments.

  • hopesonehope@xanga

    speaking from experience - deal with the subject in a very different way


    find a place for the kid to get involved in something that the kid loves 
    a rock climbing class, or a monthly boys group, here we have a wilderness class (that then has a one week summer camp) - something that is cool, and fun and a bit more then him so he has to work at it and focus
    often that extra time with a mentor in a sport or activity will allow them to see the reward of dsicipline and rules, from a very different perspective - it is sneaky how it works because they dont see it as the same, as finishing up chores lol
    i know it sounds silly or odd, but please think of it some, it can make HUGE differences in their lives
    even having them volunteer with someone else, someone younger can make a big impact
    good luck!  regardles of what you choose to do you will need it, and a more then a few hot showers and good venting and breaks here and there, to keep the patience up and the whole family going
    lovet
  • xiaosnowtenshi@xanga

    A part of me always wanted to live with my dad, seeing as it was my mom who dished out the punishment (and boy, did she ever...). I also had a closer bond with my dad, who was always willing to listen to me first before lecturing. But because I was 10 when my parents finalized their divorced, I was mature enough to realize that I'd have a more stable lifestyle living with my mom. It worked out fine for me--I had a house to live in, food on the table every night, and attended one of the best high schools in my state...plus I had a dad who bought me whatever I wanted when I saw him on weekends (I sound incredibly spoiled, but I usually just wanted stickers or books). I guess I kind of learned how to work the "system". But your stepson is still young, so I think it'd be ok to let him live with his bio mom for a couple of months. At his age, he's not going to understand that living with you and your husband is in his best interest, and he might hold that against you two.

  • Justame711@xanga

    I was in this situation when I was in the 7th grade, though my mother's wasn't a "free for all". My dad had custody of me and I did not get along with my step mother and a huge rift developed between my father and I. Eventually, I moved in with my mother and became a completely different person. I was much more happier and well adjusted. My father and step mother tried to get me to move back in with them, but I was finally happy and decided that staying with my mom would be best. After that happened, my dad cut me out of his life. 

    I would suggest that if his mother can properly take care of him that you let him try it out. If it works and he's happy, then great... it'll be better for marriage and for y'alls relationship with his son. If it doesn't work out, then at least you can say that y'all tried and he won't feel like he's missing out on anything. I would just suggest never ever holding it against him if he chooses his mother's house over your home.
  • death_by_chocolat@xanga

    We had a similar situation in our household...

    We adopted from Haiti, and the oldest girl was not 'blending' well, especially with my mother.  They are both very strong willed people, whereas me and the rest of the kids knew when to just drop it and lay low.. 

    Finally, my mom got so fed up with the differences that she announced my sister could no longer live at home. 

    The reason this situation is similar is because, my sister did not want to live under my mom's rule anymore.  She grew tired of it, so she started pushing my mom's buttons more and more until she couldn't take it anymore.  My sister got out of the house finally, but with great damage to the entire family. 

    I'm sorry, but in my opinion, you should probably let your child try living with their mom.  It's not easy to let a child go into a situation that might hurt them, but from the sounds of it, they won't be happy otherwise. 

    *hugs* 

  • la_vida_linda@xanga

    My parents divorced when I was very young, I idealized my father because he was never around and begged to go live with him.  It took me about 7 years living just with my mom to realize he was never coming back, but it was a long and painful lesson to learn.  I would suggest hubby have a talk with the ex and see if they can work something out before talking about it with Piglet4.  A couple of months with his mom won't kill him (we hope) and it could potentially teach him how good he has it that his dad and step mom care enough about him to set limits and standards.  Keep on keeping on!!

  • FemmeMrbd08@xanga

    Both of my parents remarried. I've known my step mom a lot longer and we now have a good relationship, even though we don't talk a lot. I used to think she was mean because of the tone of voice she'd use with me...and just some of the things she did. I still look back and I don't like some of the things that went on between us but I've known her longer and I've had time to get used to her.
    My step-dad on the other hand...it wasn't a huge adjustment period with him and I talked to my mom about it. I think sometimes parents expect kids to just adjust well immediately. There is a way to create a blended family the right way and people need to know this. Of course not every blended family has a lot of problems...but a lot do.
    Most days I am...indifferent to my step-dad. I try not to let my dislike of him show too much because I know it gets to my mom.
    In any case...if it's better for everyone involved for the kid to move out, why not? I'd be resentful towards one of my parents if they made me stay to prove a point.

  • thirdinline_88@xanga

    I tried this ten years ago, when I was the same age as Piglet4, because Dad was the "fun" house while mom kept order.


    My dad is a military man but irresponsible when it comes to details (aka children). I rarely relied upon him (or my elderly grandparents who live with him) for pickup/dropoff at school, band, or theater events, not to mention the question of meals. I was given an allowance for lunch and dinner, something I never experienced with my mom who packed lunches and cooked breakfast and dinner every day. I stayed for 1 semester before telling him I would move back in with mom&stepdad.


    If Piglet4 wants to try living with mom, let him go, but let him know that he has 1 'undo' option. If he decides to come back, brace for a lot of tension. Other sibling Piglets may express a variety of emotions (anger, curiousity, jealousy) that become permanent if you don't sit and talk through them as a family. Eventually life will settle back into routine and Piglet4 will (hopefully) have a different appreciation of life.


    -been there, done that

  • Sadiana_SaDiablo@xanga

    I'm of the opinion that most kids, especially when they're preteens or early teens, want to go to the place that's less structured. That doesn't mean you should let them.

    Yes, they'll whine, cry, pout, b!tch, piss, and moan. I'm sorry, but it's true. And they'll either get over it eventually, or like a couple kids I know, turn legal age and move out there and find out what its really like. One of them is still with her dad for her Senior year (getting drunk on the weekends, skipping school, and pretty much being a stupid teenager [not that all teenagers are stupid, just this type of behavior]), while the other (who graduated last year) moved back in with Mom and got a job because he was tired of being broke and not having the stuff he wanted, or having someone who understood his quirks.

    How much do you know about what goes on there? How much freedom is he given? How much, if any, supervision and guidance are given?

    And, as a last thought, if you do decide to "try it out" (as many have suggested), see if the mother would be okay with such a "visit" happening over next summer. That way, she'd have to deal with the boy every day, and he with her, and you wouldn't have to worry about his grades failing, and you'd have a definite time when he'd be coming back. Then, let the drama begin....

  • ladyknitsalot@xanga

    I am on the other end of it. I feel so bad for my stepsons mom. My husband and I have talked with her and with the youngest about living with us. My husband is totally for it, I am a little nervous about it because we have the "fun" house and I am afraid that we are going to go back and forth on it. And honestly I don't have kids of my own so this whole parenting thing is still kind of new to me. We are VERY involved in his life. I know that she loves him very much and I don't want to see her lose him. I don't think that she is a great mom, but I still don't want to see her lose her son. He comments all the time how much we help him with his homework and how he loves it that we ask what he learned in school. I just wish she would be more involved in his live and less involved with hers. She is going to lose him and I can't do anything about it. I would talk to her about it but she won't talk to me. Besides, who wants to hear something like that come out of someone you hates mouth? So I keep out of it.

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