Wednesday, 30 July 2008

  • Let's Give Our Teens Contraceptives... With or Without Parental Consent

    Nurse Jenna by Nurse Jenna

    As many of you may have read about or heard of the news, the group of 17 high school girls in Gloucester, Massachusetts who made the “Pregnancy Pact” have, or are giving birth this summer. Apparently these girls all decided together that it seemed like a good idea to have a baby and purposefully set out to get pregnant. Though one can only speculate upon what goes through the adolescent mind, what I find even more appalling is what goes through the adult minds that are supposed to be helping and guiding these young girls. 

    While many parents feel their daughters (and sons) should not be allowed access to birth control without their consent, what they fail to realize by this logic it that their children will still have sex without their consent. Because of these consent issues, the girls of Glouster High (and I’m sure the same goes for schools across the nation) are not allowed to obtain contraceptives from the school health center. Ironically, they are, however, allowed to take pregnancy tests at the school without their parents’ knowledge.

    This might be a moot point with this particular group of girls since they were on a mission to get a pregnant, but I work with many teens every day who certainly were not hoping to end up pregnant. While there is always the popular argument for abstinence, we know how far that goes…about as far as you can throw a baby crib.

    So why can’t we just accept that our teens ARE going to have sex and why can’t we provide them with the proper protection with or without their parents’ permission?

Comments (219)

  • NurseJenna

    @Mrs_LeFevour@xanga - I cannot tell you how many single teen moms I deliver every week in labor and delivery (often not their first pregancy).  There is more often than not a history of chlamydia.  If readily available contraception had helped just one of these girls, would you not have considered it worth it?  Or do you say "Too bad" and blame the parents?

  • samiannie

    While I was in high school, there were an average of 7-8 pregnancies a year.  While in college, because of it being an American Baptist school, if someone got pregnant, it was covered up quickly by marriage.  I can only think of 1 pregnancy for sure that was conceived out of wedlock, and they got married shortly after finding out they were pregnant.

    As far as when my son/future kids get old enough, we are going to promote abstinence with the knowledge that it might not last until marriage.  Both my husband and I waited for sex until our wedding night.  It was really nice to be able to not give into the world and the pressures of "do what feels good for that moment" and wait.

    I know that not everyone has the same thoughts as I do or even the same level of determination, but I made a promise to myself to wait to have sex on my wedding night and I stuck to it.  I wish there were more people out there who would do that.

    As far as the girls who made the pact...only two words come to mind...tisk-tisk.  I understand that things happen when you are active in high school, little surprises come along that are truly surprises, but to purposefully seek out to get pregnant while in high school is just plain dumb in my opinion.

  • neverdie373@xanga

    I would like to think that I'll be able to have an open and honest relationship with my (future) children.  Although I realize just how honest I was with my parents and am quite aware that what I envision will most likely not come to pass.  I think teens 16 and older should be allowed to have access to birth control without parental consent (although it would be nice to know).  Any younger than that seems like you're really messing around with a still developing body, emotions, etc...  I read an article awhile back about a Maine middle school that was allowing students to get birth control without parental consent.  That pretty much sent me over the edge.  A 12 year old on birth control?  No way.  I wasn't even responsible enough to remember to take mine every day at 17, how can a 12 year old be trusted to do that?  Besides that what does that kind of thing do to a 12 year old's body?  I'm not naive and I know that 12 year olds have sex and get pregnant and it's not all that uncommon but if I was the school nurse/doctor and a middle school student came in asking me for birth control I'd be on the phone with children's services.  That's way to young to be making choices like that. 

  • TiRocKiinPiinK@xanga

    I understand that talking to your children about sex is important and all parents should do so. Like you said that isn't always possible, but where I come from there are plenty of places for teens to get free contraceptives. Not everyone can get birth control, but they can definitely get condoms without consent. They aren't 100% effective and you have to know how to use them, but doesn't health class or sex education already cover that? A lot of teens are making their own money and if they really don't want to suffer from any bad consequences while having sex, then they should buy condoms! Like someone else said, we want schools to do just about everything. Some schools also provide condoms and if you really want another contraceptive then you should really attempt to go to someone responsible who can help you.

    My mom sat all five of her children down and gave them the talk. She said "Ideally, I'd like for you all to wait until you're married to have sex, but that isn't always realistic when you're young. If you have sex, you can come to me. You had better use protection because if you don't and wind up with a baby, I will NOT take care of it. If you're responsible enough to lay down then you'd better be responsible enough to get up and and raise the product of your actions." We were pretty young and we already receiving sex education in 5th grade.

  • RoAngie467

    I agree with you completely on this, Nurse Jenna.

    My parents gave me all the important, educational talks on sex, but I never told them when I became sexually active. In the state of Washington, you can get birth control services at any age without parental consent. So I was fortunate to have access to those resources, but I know the law is different in every state.

  • motheroftheyear

    That's how it should be.  While by no means am I trying to condone teenage sex, I realize that it happens more often than not and I wish for those teens to be prepared both physically and emotionally.  Abstinence only education fails so often, it uses a scare-tactic to keep kids out of bed.  If we tell our kids that contraceptives aren't effective, they will have sex anyway but if we arm them with the right information, they can make better choices.

  • RaccoonEyed@xanga

    i agree . . . teens should be able to obtain contraceptives without their parents/gaurdian's consent.

  • Mrs_LeFevour@xanga

    @NurseJenna - What I am saying is the so-called answer to teenage pregnancy doesn't start when parents hand over a condom as a bandaid for the deeper issue of why kids are having sex at a younger age.  Condoms are more available today then they were when I was in Jr. High - but have you been in a middle school lately?  Do you know what those kids are doing now?  As for the babies you are delivering for young girls second time around - I bet they got plenty of info on birth control, probably even were offered free birth control pills.  They still got pregnant again.  Why?  Because just offereing birth control isn't the answer.  If it was, you would see things getting better, not worse.

  • Job38@xanga

    Many thoughts, but little time to respond.

    I don't agree with schools handing out contraceptives. I also don't agree with school teaching sex ed.  This isn't the schools role, it is the parents role. 

    As many have already pointed out, we do not live in an ideal world where all kids can talk to their parents about what is on their minds or where parents educate their own children on sex.  This is extremely sad and unfortunate.  Regardless, I don't agree with the school stepping up and doing the sex ed and giving out contraceptives and pregnancy tests.  Won't it just encourage children who weren't even planing on it to go ahead and have premarital sex?  And children who are on the fence with this issue will just have one more reason to go for it...

    I know, my opinion is  not popular.  That's okay....send on the hate mail.

  • PlainXJane@xanga

    I thought that it turned out that the pact wasn't real or something?

  • NurseJenna

    @Job38@xanga - No hate mail...it just turns out that it isn't true.  Offering contraception and sex education to teenagers does not increase sexual activity.  Also, teaching abstinence does not lower the rate. 

  • LightningRichy@xanga

    It definitely would not have hurt to have a jar of condoms with some pamphlets at the health center desk. That's the way we do it here in college and things seem to be working fine.

  • IamKelleyK@xanga

    Why can't we expect better from our teens?  Why can't we teach them to have some self control?  Why can't we teach them about the psychological damage that is caused when a teen has sex before they're ready?  It's not just about having "safe" sex.


    Seriously - we don't let them just go steal a Wii just because they want one.  We don't condone them killing another person because they got mad at them.   Or maybe we should just lower the drinking age to 14 since they'll probably sneak around and drink anyway, at least they'll get a head start and build up a tolerance..  Let's just give them a car at 12 and let them drive around since they're dying to be more grown up and have a car anyway.


    We don't do stuff like that because we care about them and their well being.  Let's be honest about sex instead - the mind, body and soul of having sex.

  • ForgottenEloquence@xanga

    Hear, hear!


    I wish more people would think about this issue in this way.

  • Mrs_LeFevour@xanga

    @IamKelleyK@xanga - that's what I'm talkin' about!  You don't lower the bar and condone poor behaviour!  

  • wuhBANG@xanga

    Nurse Jenna, the "pregnancy pact" was an exaggeration unwittingly spewed out by the principal of the school when confronted by the news media. There is no evidence that the teenage mothers-to-be all agreed to intentionally get pregnant and raise their babies together; rather, the situation was one in which the girls, upon realizing that they were pregnant, decided they would come together to support one another in raising their children.

  • stfuitscate@xanga

    I love that you wrote this. I know the feeling of not being able to talk to your parents about sex. And it's nice to see that you're not looking at sex as some horrible thing that you shouldn't do till your forty and have a permission form signed by your parents, like everyone else.

  • NurseJenna

    @Mrs_LeFevour@xanga - Again, I'm right with you in what you teach, but the reality speaks otherwise.  We as a society can address it in a practical way, or turn a blind eye and pretend that a "good-talking to" will fix an epidemic problem....and by problem, I mean unprotected sex.  Again, I am not going to judge who should and should not be having sex.


    @wuhBANG@xanga - Where did you read that?

  • Mrs_LeFevour@xanga

    Jenna, I hope I don't sound argumentative - I respect your opinion and your position.  All I am saying is that contraceptives have been made widely available since I was in Jr High and the pregnancy rate among teens AND the rate of STDs among teens has NOT lowered.  As a matter of fact, it has increased among younger teens.  And IF giving contraceptives to young teens made a difference, then the teens that gave birth the first time at a young age would NOT be giving birth second time around.  PS  Thanks for bringing up a subject where many different views on the matter can be expressed.  

  • NurseJenna

    @Mrs_LeFevour@xanga - My question to you is what you mean by "widely available"?  That condoms can be purchased at the drugstore?   Even as a money-making, driving adult, I would not say that getting birth-control is a "simple" matter. Teenagers are not adults, but they are sexual. It is more difficult for them to get condoms and even more so oral contraceptives. In many countries oral contraceptives are over-the-counter.  It has been determined (for better or worse and I have mixed feelings) that it is by prescription only here.  This is a good protective measure in that birth control pills can be dangerous for people with some health conditions. However, I believe they remain prescriptive for liability reasons more than anything else. I would highly question the "ease" at which they can be obtained for the average teenager.  This involves at the very least a clinician appointment and a pharmacy visit and not until you are in college is there a health center that provides these services.  So is 17 or 18 the magical number in college where we now approve that they can obtain these services with ease and  guilt-free?   Seems arbitary since there are lots of 17 yr olds still in high school who could probably use the same resources and would benefit from having the same availability.  Or is it an "out of sight, out of mind" issue?  So long as we don't know what our kids are doing in college, it is a more palatable idea to think that contraceptives are available to them, even though they are still teens?


    People can raise there kids a certain way and hope for the best, but if your child decides to have sex without your knowledge, wouldn't you feel better knowing they had somewhere to go where they could easily get protection? Lots of parents think their teenagers are not sexually active, but a lot of them are wrong.

  • xeuroxchiqx@xanga

    I'm 17. So far I've had no problem with abstinence. While I agree that teens should be able to get contraceptives without their parents' approval, I still think the best choice is abstinence until you're 18. That way, you can get those contraceptives parents-free.


  • supafluffolus@xanga

    Ehh, kids are going to have sex anyways.  Plus condoms are expensive.  Heck, i'd be glad if someone gave my kid condoms for free.

  • saxy_grrl@xanga
    So why can’t we just accept that our teens ARE going to have sex


    I posted a blog about this, so I won't rant too much here -- but please, not ALL teens are having sex. I know your point depends on the fact that SOME teens are having sex, but as an abstinent teen, I'm a bit offended that I'm lumped in that generalization.


    Now on to your point:


    and why can’t we provide them with the proper protection with or without their parents’ permission?


    At first I thought, "Kids need to know what sex is, and the consequences of it, and how to protect against those consequences, whether their parents (who are likely to ignore the fact that kids need to know) teach them or not."


    But then I remembered -- is it the job of the government (in other words, the school district) to oversee that teaching? Sex is private -- what you do behind closed doors should not be a concern of the government... so should sex really be in the classrooms? Just a thought from a libertarian ;P


    This is perhaps a stupid question, but is there a legal age limit for the purchasing of protection (birth control, condoms, etc.) My question is -- what is bad about allowing teens to buy that stuff? I doubt an eight-year-old kid is going to walk up to the counter with a box of condoms in his or her hand; the concern really only spreads to young teens. I think it should be available, just maybe not from the school.


    I think I just concluded that I don't have an answer... oh well. Who does?

  • Sadiana_SaDiablo@xanga

    I have to agree with you here. Most kids are going to experiment with sex, whether their parents want them to or not. Why is it wrong to give them protection? People assume that kids will eventually go to their parents, or that parents will go to their kids. This is not always true, or even, often true.
    I'm of the belief that we live in a culture of shame, where anything about body image, sex and sexuality, or nudity is taboo. If you're embarrassed to bring it up with another, ashamed for doing or thinking something, why would you bring it up with someone else? If you believe you will be punished or ridiculed, why would you take it to someone you believe is in power over you?
    And saying that teens shouldn't have access to BC because they are not mature enough for sex doesn't stop anyone from having it. I know people in their twenties and thirties who aren't "mature" enough for sex - they're merely the legal age. How is this more right?
    The limited knowledge given from many sex ed classes is not enough. Abstinence only education is a pathetic joke. Parents aren't doing their part. And teens aren't talking to the adults they should. So teens talk to other teens, and have unprotected sex because they think that they have no other choice. What more do you expect?

  • Sadiana_SaDiablo@xanga

    @Mrs_LeFevour@xanga - Well, we license people to drive. We have an age limit for smoking, drinking, and dying for your country.
    The last three are either easily broken or flexible, but the first takes some classes, learning and skills, right?
    So why don't we all just create some lessons and license people for sex? I mean, it's not like anyone ever drives with a suspended license, while inebriated, or illegally, right?

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